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Old 03-01-2013, 09:54 PM   #1
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Recommended hardware for centos/debian


Hi all. I am looking to do a build. Ive been using laptops specifically the IBM Thinkpad T43 and it's pretty much gotta go. It is too old and there is some absolutely powerful stuff for desktops now. I am looking for hardware that will pretty much all work in sync.

I do alot of forensic stuff so I need a machine that can handle alot of data transfers between disks. For now I have been using this laptop with its 2 measly USB 2.0 ports to attach a drive bay using USB for the source drive to image and an external to put the image onto. Needless to say, its a horrible way to work so that is why I am changing things up!

Ive been looking at the i7 Sandy Bridge
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115229

And the Gigabyte GA-X79 motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128562

This board can handle 64GB RAM. I am using 1.5GB right now so you can believe me when I say that I have no idea what 64GB of RAM could possibly do or if I would even need something like that.

I also will need a powerful video card as well. I don't need the best one but I won't settle for onboard stuff. There have been a lot of complaints about that motherboard so if anyone can recommend something that will work in sync with centos out of the box, I would appreciate it. I don't really have too much time to invest into the hardware that is available as it is really a world in its own.

To be honest, I would really need 2 machines. One would be mostly used for imaging and extraction of data, and the other would be my regular workstation, to work on other tasks that may be computer-intensive.

From what I noticed, imaging of data does not seem to require alot of processing, it seems like it's mostly disk related, but I don't know, I didn't run 'top' when imaging as I don't want to run any programs when I do that. Now when using tools like foremost, and especially scalpel, it demands a lot of processing. This is where I need a really good machine.

If anyone can recommend a "combo" of parts, I would more than appreciate it. I know it really comes down to money but I am willing to spend $1500 for 1 good machine or for 2 decently powerful machines.

Thanks,
Shawn

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Old 03-02-2013, 11:13 AM   #2
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I know some of you are using a custom built desktop. At least I would hope.

Anyway, I did come across a site that was using these parts together but the processor is only $1100 itself! I'd probably just get the same processor but the quad-core, which is about $299 I believe. Everything else looks good to me, though.

Under X79 Setup:
http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages..._review,7.html
 
Old 03-04-2013, 04:21 AM   #3
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IMO dont bother with LGA 2011 systems for normal desktop use. LGA 1155 is a little cheaper for the CPUs and motherboards, and will run just as fast as a LGA 2011 system in almost all cases.......

Get a LGA 1155 system with an 'Ivy Bridge' CPU (22nm not 32nm like the sandy bridge-e).

Why would you need a 'powerful' video card? I wouldnt be using the onboard if I had the option but spending a large amount on a video card isnt going to help you at all from what you have said. Depending on what version of CentOS you want to use, you could have problems with some of the newest cards (but you'd probably also have problems with new intel CPUs + motherboards in that case). A fairly low end non-gamers nVidia or AMD card is what I would get, something under $100 US and probably under $75.

If you are using externals HDDs getting a system with the ability to use USB 3.0, eSATA and maybe firewire/firewire 800 would be a good idea. USB 2.0 is slow as hell compared to the others.

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Old 03-04-2013, 05:03 AM   #4
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If you want to build a new computer with recent hardware, you WILL need a recent-ish kernel. That kinda rules out CentOS.
I have a Gigabyte FM2 board and i had to use kernel 3.6 and up (on Debian Wheezy) because of the onboard audio (ALC 892) just wouldnt work well on 3.2.
Of course, different distros have different patches applied, but as a general rule, a current gen hardware will usually work on current kernels.
 
Old 03-04-2013, 12:40 PM   #5
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I'm open to Centos or Debian. I got used to Centos and I tried to install Debian but it failed in many ways. Can't install grub sometimes, then wouldnt load on my other laptop. Not sure if its just Debian that sucks now or is it my laptop but this is why I need a real machine to begin with..

After some searching, I was thinking of the AMD FX-8320 CPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...vishera%208320

And the ASRock Extreme3 board
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...970%20extreme3

I know someone running an ESXi with the above plus 32GB DDR3 1333 RAM and a $75 video card.
 
Old 03-04-2013, 12:46 PM   #6
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IMO dont bother with LGA 2011 systems for normal desktop use. LGA 1155 is a little cheaper for the CPUs and motherboards, and will run just as fast as a LGA 2011 system in almost all cases.......

Get a LGA 1155 system with an 'Ivy Bridge' CPU (22nm not 32nm like the sandy bridge-e).

Why would you need a 'powerful' video card? I wouldnt be using the onboard if I had the option but spending a large amount on a video card isnt going to help you at all from what you have said. Depending on what version of CentOS you want to use, you could have problems with some of the newest cards (but you'd probably also have problems with new intel CPUs + motherboards in that case). A fairly low end non-gamers nVidia or AMD card is what I would get, something under $100 US and probably under $75.

If you are using externals HDDs getting a system with the ability to use USB 3.0, eSATA and maybe firewire/firewire 800 would be a good idea. USB 2.0 is slow as hell compared to the others.
The video card I want is not that much.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127616
 
Old 03-04-2013, 01:48 PM   #7
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GTX 560 Ti? Its a gaming card. Sure, if you call $180 not much thats OK, but its not going to help your system at all if you arent gaming or using software that can make use of the GPU.

Getting a gamers card for normal system use is a nice way to spend money, increase the power supply requirements and produce more heat.
 
Old 03-04-2013, 02:32 PM   #8
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I am actually going to be using software that makes use of the GPUs. I don't game at all.
 
Old 03-04-2013, 03:24 PM   #9
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Then it would have been a good idea to list that in post #1.....

Though I have my doubts.
 
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Old 03-04-2013, 10:22 PM   #11
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Can anyone make any recommendations for a machine just dedicated to imaging and extraction? I'd like to be able to use the one I am building for my main workstation. I only need a machine with plenty of drive bays to be able to mount the drives internally. Since the tools I am using is just disk-intensive and not CPU-intensive, I don't need anything fancy but I also don't want anything that will break down for $250.

Thanks,
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