i was browsing through the forums but coulndt find a soultion yet. My system is a gentoo system, running on kernel 2.6.8, xorg 6.8 and i have an ATI Radeon 9200se AGP video card. I compiled the ati radeon drivers into the kernel in character devices, the dri or drm ones too. My xorg.conf has "dri" and "glx" enabled, they are commented out as they should. My 2d has been working marveleously, but the 3d is horrendous, even though the card sucks dri is simply not enabled. I run glxinfo and it says Direct Rendering : No , i tested it with glxgears and a get a 150 - 250 fps performance , windowed. i heard you can get about 1000 fps with this card. If anyone had the same problem and fixed it, your help would be greatly appriciated. I was thinking maybe i had to go back to either xorg 6.7 or xfree to fix the prob, but i wanted to hear your suggestions first. Thx a million.

1000 fps?

i have same card and get no more then about 600-700 fps MAX , unless i minimize the window, and close all apps, and do nothing, then i can get about 60000 fps

anyways.,, me with same card, and also gentoo had problem to, and heres the solution

ATI DRIVERS SUCK!

use the xorg divers for ati radeon

ati radeon 9200se is one of those lucky cards, with open source drivers work in 3d for them, works perfectly, with no hassle (and i tried for days to get ati's drivers to do direct rendering ... no luck)

i'm glad to see you got them working, what version of xorg are you using. keep in mind i have 6.8.0 and yes i am using the xorg drivers, atleast i believe so. and if possible tell me what other things you emerged other than xorg-x11. Thx a million.

add OpenGL (or however its capitalized .. ) to the /etc/make.conf file (you know were)

then you need setup the dri, so compile your kernel with dri enabled, and select the proper drm thing for your card ... that should allow a connection to your card to enable the drivers to do 3d support

as for what version, i use 6.7.0 (the current "stable" version for gentoo,... well at least it was a week ago ..)

then restart, and run the setup program to configure X .....

then startup the X server, and see if that gets direct rendering (if it doesn't then its probably a problem with the config maker .. first time i used xorg i had to add certain sections and lines just to get it to work right ...)

I did everything you posted there, even went back to xorg 6.7, still no DRI. You mind posting or somehow showing me the lines you had to add to your xorg.conf. Thx a million.

be forwarned I'm a newbie and this might not apply to gentoo at all but...

what do you get from running the command "fglrxinfo" ? or does the fglrx modules not apply to gentoo?

sorry, just want to help, I had the same problems in mandy.

yes...ATI drivers are worthless

This is what i get

xorg's configuration command is rather stupid ... tho its gotten way better then a few versions ago ill admit

comment the dri and glx modules back in. ... also comment that dri section in also

I think this thread answers my question before I asked it
I was going to upgrade my systems and ...
I was going to use the
ATI Radeon 9200 SE 128 mb ddr tv-out & dvi,agp 8x
is this not a very good idea ?
it just happens to very cheap
can anyone suggest a good ( cheap ) alternative
Am using Mandrake 10.0
floppywhopper

Heh. i went real far to get this card working so these are some tip for other ati radeon users...

My first is that its true that the ATI Binary drivers dont work with xorg 6.8.x, They do indeed work with xorg 6.7, very well too , i didnt have any probs at all. Now this didnt satisfy me because i wanted the greatest and the latest, xorg 6.8.
It dawned upon me... lol, this is really stupid. I had ATI set in the AGP Gart, and in fact my motherboard chipset is NOT Ati, it is a VIA chipset, so i compiled the kernel in my case kernel 2.6.9 with the VIA chipset instead of ATI. ( I still used ATI radeon under DRM) I also saw on some other posts that i had to do the command. This is so it uses the built in xorg drivers instead of the ATI ones which i had before. One last thing i did was that in the generated xorg.conf i made sure the whole Section "dri" line and the one's below it, including Mode 0666 were UNcommented. = )

Hope anyone out there with probs gettin DRI workign on their radeon could use this.
Thx for the help.

what kind of performance does this yield? And would this solution apply at all to mandrake or other distros?

I run glxgears and get 700 ish scores. Not so great but better than the 150 - 250 i was getting without DRI. It might be something i have specified wrong in the x.org file or it may be a bug in the Beta version of XFCE which i am using. I'm on xorg 6.8 and this seems to be slower than 6.7, this will probably be fixed in the next release, probably was in 6.8.1. It should work in mandrake too, all you'd have to do is maybe recompile your kernel to specifics. All of My graphics stuff is compiled in kernel, no modules. The radeon 9200se is just a sucky card though, you will probably get much better scores with a different Radeon = ).

Yeah that's about the kind of performance I get with the proprietary drivers, and is reflected in game, although I have gotten UT2004 to work with a little module-screwing.

The card did much much better in windows, that's all I know for certain.

I have the same card, ati drivers dont work well with 2.6 kernel.
i get 600-700 fps with glx gears but counterstrike with cedega is unplayable like this. with suse 9 and 2.4 kernel it was fine.
ati drivers suck basically. they are working on it, alledgedly