PowerManagement+1GHZ Athlon XP+Kubuntu(not working)

shadowsa · 05-30-2008, 01:34 PM

PowerManagement+1GHZ Athlon XP+Kubuntu(not working)8b25wb
here the resuts of dmesg

http://paste.org/index.php?id=2985

and the result from

/var/log/messages
http://paste.org/index.php?id=2986

aus9 · 06-01-2008, 08:01 AM

power management requires software to interfere with hardware....and sometimes the bios interferes as well.

I will make some general comments as well as power comments

1)line 13 and 14 show not much memory...was this a virtual box given only 256 Megs?

2) line 30+ acpi shows up so you have some power

3) line 57 shows bios has interfered.

4) line 105 dummy apic emulation....me really thinks this is a vm.

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If I am right....trying adding a boot parameter to your grub or lilo kernel line

apic=verbose

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then boot up again....check your logs and somewhere in kubuntu there should be a kde style control panel to enable power management

shadowsa · 06-01-2008, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aus9

power management requires software to interfere with hardware....and sometimes the bios interferes as well.

I will make some general comments as well as power comments

1)line 13 and 14 show not much memory...was this a virtual box given only 256 Megs?

2) line 30+ acpi shows up so you have some power

3) line 57 shows bios has interfered.

4) line 105 dummy apic emulation....me really thinks this is a vm.

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If I am right....trying adding a boot parameter to your grub or lilo kernel line

apic=verbose

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then boot up again....check your logs and somewhere in kubuntu there should be a kde style control panel to enable power management

here is my result from dmesg
http://paste.org/index.php?id=2995

1.) i have kubuntu natively installed on my system and have 256mb ram

2.) ?

3.) i dont know

4.) hrmm im not sure what this means

can not find that kde style control panel.

thank you very much for your help and for the reply

looking forward for more instructions

aus9 · 06-01-2008, 09:57 PM

ok thanks for that...your new dmesg
line 44 shows you got vebose working

line 45 shows
[ 0.000000] Local APIC disabled by BIOS -- you can enable it with "lapic"

line 86
[ 13.376203] Local APIC not detected. Using dummy APIC emulation.

well this looked like a virtual machine....but what I should have done is got you to do lapic first....my mistake.

a) thats not a lot of ram now a days...have you looked at xubuntu if you like ubuntu style?
puppy will run great.

b) so remove that kernel line of verbose and replace with "lapic"

note that you do not say lapic=on or other normal boot parameters.

c) but ignore all of above if we can get you power settings...see if these help

http://www.linuxcompatible.org/Kubun...ed_s85807.html

http://www.linuxonline.biz/product_i...roducts_id=310

this last one mentions Local Help

shadowsa · 06-02-2008, 01:56 AM

here my results from dmesg using lapic
http://paste.org/index.php?id=2998

if i didnt mention it, it is a DT Tower Sony pcv-rx52
and the only reason wht i want powermangement to get to run is because my fan is runing with maximum power 24h

http://paste.org/index.php?id=2998

aus9 · 06-02-2008, 06:35 AM

thanks for that
line 46 apic is up and running
line 85 you have amd processor
line 191 you have cpu ide governor

line 319 [ 41.101994] it87 it87.656: Detected broken BIOS defaults, disabling PWM interface

not good

line 325 No powernow capabilities detected

2) why can't you tell us...why you can not find the power management settings from the links?

3) do you mean cpu fan or case fan or both?

shadowsa · 06-02-2008, 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aus9

thanks for that
line 46 apic is up and running
line 85 you have amd processor
line 191 you have cpu ide governor

line 319 [ 41.101994] it87 it87.656: Detected broken BIOS defaults, disabling PWM interface

not good

line 325 No powernow capabilities detected

2) why can't you tell us...why you can not find the power management settings from the links?

3) do you mean cpu fan or case fan or both?

2) from which links?

3) i mean both cpu and case fan (power suply)

for example i dont have an entry in /proc/acpi/fan/
and also not in /proc/acpi/thermal/

thank you very much

aus9 · 06-02-2008, 09:38 AM

links above post 4 (c)

no proc entries may because you do not have the modules for fan and thermal loaded

gave you link to output of

Code:

su
lsmod

please

shadowsa · 06-02-2008, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aus9

links above post 4 (c)

no proc entries may because you do not have the modules for fan and thermal loaded

gave you link to output of

Code:

su
lsmod

please

as i can see thermal and fan are loaded
result of lsmod

Code:

Module                  Size  Used by
ipv6                  267780  8
af_packet              23812  2
rfcomm                 41744  2
l2cap                  25728  13 rfcomm
bluetooth              61156  4 rfcomm,l2cap
radeon                124192  2
drm                    82580  3 radeon
ppdev                  10372  0
sbs                    15112  0
sbshc                   7680  1 sbs
container               5632  0
dock                   11280  0
video                  19856  0
output                  4736  1 video
battery                14212  0
cpufreq_powersave       2688  0
cpufreq_conservative     8712  0
cpufreq_stats           7104  0
cpufreq_ondemand        9740  0
freq_table              5536  2 cpufreq_stats,cpufreq_ondemand
cpufreq_userspace       5284  0
iptable_filter          3840  0
ip_tables              14820  1 iptable_filter
x_tables               16132  1 ip_tables
aes_i586               33536  0
dm_crypt               15364  0
dm_mod                 62660  1 dm_crypt
ac                      6916  0
it87                   20876  0
hwmon_vid               4352  1 it87
sbp2                   24072  0
lp                     12324  0
pcmcia                 40876  0
parport_pc             36260  1
parport                37832  3 ppdev,lp,parport_pc
evdev                  13056  3
snd_trident            44324  1
gameport               16008  2 snd_trident
snd_ac97_codec        101028  1 snd_trident
ac97_bus                3072  1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_pcm_oss            42144  0
snd_mixer_oss          17920  1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm                78596  4 snd_trident,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
snd_page_alloc         11400  2 snd_trident,snd_pcm
snd_util_mem            5632  1 snd_trident
snd_mpu401_uart         9728  1 snd_trident
sn9c102               127236  0
compat_ioctl32          2304  1 sn9c102
psmouse                40336  0
gspca                 643920  0
serio_raw               7940  0
videodev               29440  2 sn9c102,gspca
v4l2_common            18304  2 sn9c102,videodev
v4l1_compat            15492  1 videodev
snd_seq_dummy           4868  0
button                  9232  0
snd_seq_oss            35584  0
snd_seq_midi            9376  0
pcspkr                  4224  0
snd_rawmidi            25760  2 snd_mpu401_uart,snd_seq_midi
snd_seq_midi_event      8320  2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi
snd_seq                54224  6 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event
yenta_socket           27276  3
rsrc_nonstatic         13696  1 yenta_socket
pcmcia_core            40596  3 pcmcia,yenta_socket,rsrc_nonstatic
snd_timer              24836  2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
snd_seq_device          9612  5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq
shpchp                 34452  0
pci_hotplug            30880  1 shpchp
snd                    56996  13 snd_trident,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device
i2c_sis630              8076  0
i2c_core               24832  1 i2c_sis630
sis_agp                10116  1
soundcore               8800  1 snd
agpgart                34760  2 drm,sis_agp
ext3                  136712  1
jbd                    48404  1 ext3
mbcache                 9600  1 ext3
sr_mod                 17956  0
cdrom                  37408  1 sr_mod
sg                     36880  0
sd_mod                 30720  2
8139cp                 24704  0
floppy                 59588  0
ohci1394               33584  0
ieee1394               93752  2 sbp2,ohci1394
8139too                27520  0
mii                     6400  2 8139cp,8139too
pata_sis               15236  2
ohci_hcd               25348  0
ata_generic             8324  0
pata_acpi               8320  0
usbcore               146028  4 sn9c102,gspca,ohci_hcd
libata                159344  3 pata_sis,ata_generic,pata_acpi
scsi_mod              151436  5 sbp2,sr_mod,sg,sd_mod,libata
thermal                16796  9
processor              36872  74 thermal
fan                     5636  0
fbcon                  42912  0
tileblit                3456  1 fbcon
font                    9472  1 fbcon
bitblit                 6784  1 fbcon
softcursor              3072  1 bitblit
fuse                   50580  1

shadowsa · 06-02-2008, 10:51 AM

i check the sugested links from post 4 but i dont know what to do with those, those seem just to be general feature information about kubuntu, i dont understand what you really mean.

thank you in advance

shadowsa · 06-03-2008, 12:37 AM

beside that xsensonrs and ksensors is showing me the fan speed but i cant change the fan speed i tryed it as a root user but it seems not possible.

aus9 · 06-03-2008, 03:18 AM

xsensors and ksensors maybe a form of lm_sensors....and sensors needs to be setup correctly with the appropiate module eg it87....via stuff...lmstuff....please raise a new post for that as its different from power management question. You may note a lack of other posters here so I can not help on that question.

2) ahh well lets go thru those links step by step
http://www.linuxcompatible.org/Kubun...ed_s85807.html

says

Power Management

Guidance Power Management
Guidance Power Manager has been improved even further for 7.04. You now have the option to select how you would like to scale your CPU while using the power of the battery on your laptop. Dynamic, Powersave and Performance are your options for scaling. There are also options for how your system should react when you close the laptop lid and how to handle low power from the battery.

but if you have laptop etc....you need the right module running.

you could modprobe the right module but lets leave this link and jump to the next

http://www.linuxonline.biz/product_i...roducts_id=310

this repeats that you have the kde desktop....so in theory.....you should have this
--------

kde control centre
----------

under peripherals.....display......tab to power control and enable power management.

under appearance....screen saver....setup screen saver

-------------------------------------------------------

somewhere in your services you should check you have installed and running for your runlevel
smartd.....a daemon for hard drive health
lm_sensors....which I admit may be called something else on your distro

and then configure it....with root powers run

sensors-detect and follow the prompts

aus9 · 06-03-2008, 03:19 AM

oh I run a gui for output of my sensors......called gkrellm

shadowsa · 06-04-2008, 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aus9

xsensors and ksensors maybe a form of lm_sensors....and sensors needs to be setup correctly with the appropiate module eg it87....via stuff...lmstuff....please raise a new post for that as its different from power management question. You may note a lack of other posters here so I can not help on that question.

2) ahh well lets go thru those links step by step
http://www.linuxcompatible.org/Kubun...ed_s85807.html

says

Power Management

Guidance Power Management
Guidance Power Manager has been improved even further for 7.04. You now have the option to select how you would like to scale your CPU while using the power of the battery on your laptop. Dynamic, Powersave and Performance are your options for scaling. There are also options for how your system should react when you close the laptop lid and how to handle low power from the battery.

but if you have laptop etc....you need the right module running.

you could modprobe the right module but lets leave this link and jump to the next

http://www.linuxonline.biz/product_i...roducts_id=310

this repeats that you have the kde desktop....so in theory.....you should have this
--------

kde control centre
----------

under peripherals.....display......tab to power control and enable power management.

under appearance....screen saver....setup screen saver

-------------------------------------------------------

somewhere in your services you should check you have installed and running for your runlevel
smartd.....a daemon for hard drive health
lm_sensors....which I admit may be called something else on your distro

and then configure it....with root powers run

sensors-detect and follow the prompts

1) i dont have a laptop

2) smartd is installed and running

3) lm-sensors is installed and i run sensors-detect

4) i dont care about display management

5) the sugested links dont help me in any kind of way

thank you for your help in advance

shadowsa · 06-04-2008, 05:43 AM

problem solved by following instructions from here

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=607614

and crucial was this

http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php...5&postcount=17