Possible to use Sony Walkman NW-E003F on linux?
hi, i just got a walkman for xmas. is it possible to use it on Linux?
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There may be other opinions, with explanations hopefully too, but as far as I know that model won't work under Linux because it needs special (Sony's) software to transfer music between your computer and itself. Sony's software won't run on Linux and besides being heavy, I don't think they are going to write it to work under Linux. It's better to first make sure a device works under Linux and only then buy it, since there are some devices after all that would work (the hardware) but they don't because of the software.
I was about to buy the player mentioned some time ago, but decided not to since after some searching it became quite clear it is not going to work, unless you run Windows through VMware or try to emulate the transfer program with Wine (probably won't work too well). If you find out a way to get it work, please tell the rest of us too; anyway, I wouldn't be too positive about it unless Sony started creating software for Linux. |
fix3d!
actually I got it to work without sonicstage or any emulation. if ya want a howto just ask me :) :) :) :) :D
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I was just about to ask if anybody knew how to connect to a Net MD Walkman under Linux so Pencilpoint, could we have the howto, pretty please?
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Hmm, from all my searching when I was trying to do the same with my Walkman (different model) everything pointed to this not being possible. I even tried Wine with SonicStage and VMWare to run Windows under Linux.
Please do tell us what you did and how you got it to work. |
Howto
I think that this only works for walkmans that are the NW00--- things. if ya don't have one of theese you can use other things just contact me.
so what you do is first start up your walkman and go to the menu (press the HOME button) and go to settings. then go to advanced settings -> initialize. reset the settings and also format the thing. then go to your PC. go to the following link:http://sourceforge.net/projects/nwe00xmp3man now download the mp3 manager, and also download the OMGAUDIO thing that I think is in the Optionals directory. then plug in the mp3 into your computer (usb port mandatory) and open up the file manager. now ya gotta get into the USB walkman. usually it'll be under somethihng like /media/usbdisk or /media/usbdisk-1. now go and open up a terminal and type in the following: sudo cp [place file path to mp3 program here] [path to usb -- usually /media/usbdisk or /media/usbdisk-1] now it should copy. now unpack the OMGAUDIO thing and copy and paste the OMGAUDIO directory into your usb thing. now whatcha gotta do is go to the usbdisk directory and the .jar program and the OMGAUDIO directoy should be there. right click the .jar file and click "open with java runtime enviroment" or something like that. if that doesn't work then open up da terminal and navigate to usbdisk and type in java -jar [.jar file here]. It should execute and POP the Mp3 file manager should open up. so get all the songs that you want and click on them. then there should be a button that, on when you put your cursor on it, says something like put songs on player. then click on the floppy disk buttons and wait for the songs to get on. HORRAY they're on the player. but wait. now go into your filemanager (I HIGHLY reccoment Thunar) and you have to somehow unmount the usbdisk. On Thunar, right click the icon on the little tab on the left, and click unmount volume. now the thing will unmount and WALA all the songs should be there. if this doesn't work e-mail me at pencilpoint135@yahoo.com ps: right now Im at mad river glen skiing :) |
Thank you!
I registered on here just to thank you! Ive been trying to transfer music to my walkman since Xmas with no luck. Thanks!
P.S. I had to install FFMPEG to make the transferred files play, but there is a warning when the program starts so its an obvious thing :) |
Unfortunately this doesn't seem to apply to an MZ-N710. However any suggestions appreciated.
The DRM on this abomination is unreal. You cannot transfer files from the Walkman to a PC, even if the files are your own recordings. Sony's paranoia extends to the manual. If you read the PDF on-line the save function is disabled. (OK easy work around, but why on earth bother to do this? |
Hi,
I've tried this and it all goes well until I get to the java -jar NW-E003_MP3_File_Manager-0.10.jar part (I dont have a ight click option come up) and I get a Segmentation fault. Please can you tell me what I'm doing wrong? Do I have the correct version of java installed? I have jre-1.5 at least thats the package I belive is the java. If not what do I need? Thanks. Edit Ok after a few hours of playing around I've got it working... Yay! Happy times. Thank you for posting this howto I can now go back to just a linux computer and no longer have to duel boot!!!!!! I had some big issues with the java install on my computer and had to run the command once cd'ing to /mnt/removable; /usr/java/jre1.6.0/bin/java -jar /mnt/removable/NW-E003_MP3_File_Manager-0.10.jar But it works!!! will sort the java correcty another night I think. |
Seems to me that this is only going to work with Mp3 players, the NetMD uses ATRAC so it needs conversion software, and that's where Sony's Sonic Stage comes in. I got caught with this as well, just bought an MZ-9 and so far I've uncovered two aborted projects to get Linux to work with it and that's all. Wine doesn't seem to do it so I guess it's pay Cedega to write the sox or sell it on eBay...:cry:
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Pencilpoint - I think that this would make an excellent how to. Would you post it in the Tutorials section please (they don't show until they are released by a mod) so that it doesn't get pushed down the forums and lost.
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VMware and Xen will allow you to run multiple OSes concurrently, saving you having to reboot. However yes, you have to have Windows.
Moreover with Xen (don't know about VMware) you need a dual core CPU. |
Re: VMware
If you do have a windows CD, you can install it into a vm quite easily.
First download VMWare player for linux (its free), this differs depending on distro so im not going to explain it :) Then go to: http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml and create a virtual machine. Extract the zip file that you download from that site to a folder somewhere, and run VMware player. Load the vmx file from the extracted folder with your Windows disc in your CDROM drive and install Windows on the VM. Then you can install sonicstage or whatever. I tried this using a mapped network drive to access my music but it was VERY slow, so I recommend copying your music to the virtual machine and then opening it with SOnicStage from there. You DONT need a dual core CPU to run VMware, although having one will allow your PC and VM to run at full speed. |
[Sigh] I have the dual core processor, unfortunately I don't have Windows. I gave it away when I switched to Linux.
Mind you, W98 and WinMe probably don't support dual core, or 1 gig of memory, or 80 gig hard drives... Unless VMW copes with this. Any ideas on that front? |
It shouldn't be a problem. You are creating a virtual machine and you probably can define how much RAM it will have. Ditto the CPU.
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I am temped to have a go at Pencilpoint's instructions, but am a little nervous at totally screwing up the device! Would be great to get that to work as Sonicstage is awful, but the hardware is rather good. |
How to get Music onto the Walkman nwe00xmp3man
NOTE: Since originally writing this post I have found Symphonic, a better program for use with the Sony Walkman than the file manager below. You can find a tutorial I started in the LQWiki at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/...lkman_Tutorial.
Here is a tutorial I've worked up. We need to setup a wiki somewhere where we can all offer our solutions to the unique problems with this software. (Note: These first nine steps may not be necessary, you might be able to just erase the root directory of you walkman, DO NOT FORMAT IT WITH YOUR OPERATING SYSTEM!!!!, only format the Walkman as outlined below, or as outlined in the Operation Guide) 1. Take your Walkman, hold the HOME button until the advanced menu appears. 2. Go over to the fourth icon (on the NW-E003f), it looks like a file folder with a bidirectional-horizontal arrow in it 3. Press play/stop 4. Press fast forward until you get to the advanced menu 5. Press play/stop 6. Press fast forward until you get to initialize 7. Press play/stop 8. Press fast forward until you get format 9. press play/stop to format 10. Goto http://sourceforge.net/projects/nwe00xmp3man and download NW-E00X_MP3_File_Manager-0.13.jar and the OMGAUDIO.ZIP. 11. place nwe00xmp3man.jar and OMGAUDIO.ZIP in the root directory of the walkman. 12. unzip OMGAUDIO to the walkman root directory. 13. Open up a command window and change the working directory to the root directory of the player (if the walkman is the only usb storage device is hooked up to ubuntu it should be /media/disk) 14. type: chmod 700 NW-E00X_MP3_File_Manager-0.13.jar to make it executeable. 15. type ./NW-E00X_MP3_File_Manager-0.13.jar 16. Voila, now you can dump files onto your Walkman. Just remember to change to /media/disk and type ./NW-E00X_MP3_File_Manager-0.13.jar whenever you want to run the program. |
Thanks for that, looks like a good solution. And the LQ Wiki could be just the place for it!
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You need to also make sure you have Java installed...
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