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pencilpoint 12-25-2006 08:32 AM

Possible to use Sony Walkman NW-E003F on linux?
 
hi, i just got a walkman for xmas. is it possible to use it on Linux?

b0uncer 12-25-2006 04:27 PM

There may be other opinions, with explanations hopefully too, but as far as I know that model won't work under Linux because it needs special (Sony's) software to transfer music between your computer and itself. Sony's software won't run on Linux and besides being heavy, I don't think they are going to write it to work under Linux. It's better to first make sure a device works under Linux and only then buy it, since there are some devices after all that would work (the hardware) but they don't because of the software.

I was about to buy the player mentioned some time ago, but decided not to since after some searching it became quite clear it is not going to work, unless you run Windows through VMware or try to emulate the transfer program with Wine (probably won't work too well).

If you find out a way to get it work, please tell the rest of us too; anyway, I wouldn't be too positive about it unless Sony started creating software for Linux.

pencilpoint 12-28-2006 11:35 AM

fix3d!
 
actually I got it to work without sonicstage or any emulation. if ya want a howto just ask me :) :) :) :) :D

lekkie 12-28-2006 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pencilpoint
actually I got it to work without sonicstage or any emulation. if ya want a howto just ask me :) :) :) :) :D


How'd get it 2 work?

davcefai 12-28-2006 01:09 PM

I was just about to ask if anybody knew how to connect to a Net MD Walkman under Linux so Pencilpoint, could we have the howto, pretty please?

XavierP 12-28-2006 03:29 PM

Hmm, from all my searching when I was trying to do the same with my Walkman (different model) everything pointed to this not being possible. I even tried Wine with SonicStage and VMWare to run Windows under Linux.

Please do tell us what you did and how you got it to work.

pencilpoint 12-30-2006 04:52 PM

Howto
 
I think that this only works for walkmans that are the NW00--- things. if ya don't have one of theese you can use other things just contact me.

so what you do is first start up your walkman and go to the menu (press the HOME button) and go to settings. then go to advanced settings -> initialize. reset the settings and also format the thing. then go to your PC. go to the following link:http://sourceforge.net/projects/nwe00xmp3man


now download the mp3 manager, and also download the OMGAUDIO thing that I think is in the Optionals directory. then plug in the mp3 into your computer (usb port mandatory) and open up the file manager. now ya gotta get into the USB walkman. usually it'll be under somethihng like /media/usbdisk or /media/usbdisk-1.

now go and open up a terminal and type in the following:

sudo cp [place file path to mp3 program here] [path to usb -- usually /media/usbdisk or /media/usbdisk-1]

now it should copy. now unpack the OMGAUDIO thing and copy and paste the OMGAUDIO directory into your usb thing.

now whatcha gotta do is go to the usbdisk directory and the .jar program and the OMGAUDIO directoy should be there. right click the .jar file and click "open with java runtime enviroment" or something like that. if that doesn't work then open up da terminal and navigate to usbdisk and type in java -jar [.jar file here]. It should execute and POP the Mp3 file manager should open up. so get all the songs that you want and click on them. then there should be a button that, on when you put your cursor on it, says something like put songs on player. then click on the floppy disk buttons and wait for the songs to get on. HORRAY they're on the player. but wait. now go into your filemanager (I HIGHLY reccoment Thunar) and you have to somehow unmount the usbdisk. On Thunar, right click the icon on the little tab on the left, and click unmount volume. now the thing will unmount and WALA all the songs should be there. if this doesn't work e-mail me at pencilpoint135@yahoo.com



ps: right now Im at mad river glen skiing :)

Kazade 01-03-2007 04:20 AM

Thank you!
 
I registered on here just to thank you! Ive been trying to transfer music to my walkman since Xmas with no luck. Thanks!

P.S. I had to install FFMPEG to make the transferred files play, but there is a warning when the program starts so its an obvious thing :)

davcefai 01-03-2007 01:10 PM

Unfortunately this doesn't seem to apply to an MZ-N710. However any suggestions appreciated.

The DRM on this abomination is unreal. You cannot transfer files from the Walkman to a PC, even if the files are your own recordings.

Sony's paranoia extends to the manual. If you read the PDF on-line the save function is disabled. (OK easy work around, but why on earth bother to do this?

Richie55 01-04-2007 02:30 PM

Hi,

I've tried this and it all goes well until I get to the java -jar NW-E003_MP3_File_Manager-0.10.jar part (I dont have a ight click option come up) and I get a Segmentation fault.

Please can you tell me what I'm doing wrong? Do I have the correct version of java installed? I have jre-1.5 at least thats the package I belive is the java. If not what do I need?

Thanks.

Edit
Ok after a few hours of playing around I've got it working... Yay! Happy times. Thank you for posting this howto I can now go back to just a linux computer and no longer have to duel boot!!!!!!

I had some big issues with the java install on my computer and had to run the command once cd'ing to /mnt/removable; /usr/java/jre1.6.0/bin/java -jar /mnt/removable/NW-E003_MP3_File_Manager-0.10.jar

But it works!!! will sort the java correcty another night I think.

ddd3 01-17-2007 08:41 PM

Seems to me that this is only going to work with Mp3 players, the NetMD uses ATRAC so it needs conversion software, and that's where Sony's Sonic Stage comes in. I got caught with this as well, just bought an MZ-9 and so far I've uncovered two aborted projects to get Linux to work with it and that's all. Wine doesn't seem to do it so I guess it's pay Cedega to write the sox or sell it on eBay...:cry:

pencilpoint 01-22-2007 08:51 AM

Vmware?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ddd3
Seems to me that this is only going to work with Mp3 players, the NetMD uses ATRAC so it needs conversion software, and that's where Sony's Sonic Stage comes in. I got caught with this as well, just bought an MZ-9 and so far I've uncovered two aborted projects to get Linux to work with it and that's all. Wine doesn't seem to do it so I guess it's pay Cedega to write the sox or sell it on eBay...:cry:


try vmware if you can.

XavierP 01-22-2007 02:45 PM

Pencilpoint - I think that this would make an excellent how to. Would you post it in the Tutorials section please (they don't show until they are released by a mod) so that it doesn't get pushed down the forums and lost.

Thanks

ddd3 01-22-2007 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pencilpoint
try vmware if you can.

I would, but it's my understanding that you also need Windows for VMWare to work. Can anyone confirm or deny this please?

davcefai 01-22-2007 11:17 PM

VMware and Xen will allow you to run multiple OSes concurrently, saving you having to reboot. However yes, you have to have Windows.

Moreover with Xen (don't know about VMware) you need a dual core CPU.

Kazade 01-24-2007 09:04 AM

Re: VMware
 
If you do have a windows CD, you can install it into a vm quite easily.

First download VMWare player for linux (its free), this differs depending on distro so im not going to explain it :)

Then go to: http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml and create a virtual machine. Extract the zip file that you download from that site to a folder somewhere, and run VMware player. Load the vmx file from the extracted folder with your Windows disc in your CDROM drive and install Windows on the VM.

Then you can install sonicstage or whatever. I tried this using a mapped network drive to access my music but it was VERY slow, so I recommend copying your music to the virtual machine and then opening it with SOnicStage from there.

You DONT need a dual core CPU to run VMware, although having one will allow your PC and VM to run at full speed.

ddd3 01-26-2007 07:20 AM

[Sigh] I have the dual core processor, unfortunately I don't have Windows. I gave it away when I switched to Linux.

Mind you, W98 and WinMe probably don't support dual core, or 1 gig of memory, or 80 gig hard drives... Unless VMW copes with this. Any ideas on that front?

davcefai 01-26-2007 12:41 PM

It shouldn't be a problem. You are creating a virtual machine and you probably can define how much RAM it will have. Ditto the CPU.

DiBosco 07-16-2007 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ddd3
Seems to me that this is only going to work with Mp3 players, the NetMD uses ATRAC so it needs conversion software, and that's where Sony's Sonic Stage comes in. I got caught with this as well, just bought an MZ-9 and so far I've uncovered two aborted projects to get Linux to work with it and that's all. Wine doesn't seem to do it so I guess it's pay Cedega to write the sox or sell it on eBay...:cry:

I have an NW-HD5 which plays MP3s just as well as ATRAC. I've had MP3s from a freind that have installed just fine. Also, I've ripped albums using lame and then just installed those on to the device and they play fine.

I am temped to have a go at Pencilpoint's instructions, but am a little nervous at totally screwing up the device! Would be great to get that to work as Sonicstage is awful, but the hardware is rather good.

jeremiahbell 01-03-2008 01:04 AM

How to get Music onto the Walkman nwe00xmp3man
 
NOTE: Since originally writing this post I have found Symphonic, a better program for use with the Sony Walkman than the file manager below. You can find a tutorial I started in the LQWiki at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/...lkman_Tutorial.

Here is a tutorial I've worked up. We need to setup a wiki somewhere where we can all offer our solutions to the unique problems with this software.

(Note: These first nine steps may not be necessary, you might be able to just erase the root directory of you walkman, DO NOT FORMAT IT WITH YOUR OPERATING SYSTEM!!!!, only format the Walkman as outlined below, or as outlined in the Operation Guide)

1. Take your Walkman, hold the HOME button until the advanced menu appears. 2. Go over to the fourth icon (on the NW-E003f), it looks like a file folder with a bidirectional-horizontal arrow in it
3. Press play/stop
4. Press fast forward until you get to the advanced menu
5. Press play/stop
6. Press fast forward until you get to initialize
7. Press play/stop
8. Press fast forward until you get format
9. press play/stop to format

10. Goto http://sourceforge.net/projects/nwe00xmp3man and download NW-E00X_MP3_File_Manager-0.13.jar and the OMGAUDIO.ZIP.

11. place nwe00xmp3man.jar and OMGAUDIO.ZIP in the root directory of the walkman.

12. unzip OMGAUDIO to the walkman root directory.

13. Open up a command window and change the working directory to the root directory of the player (if the walkman is the only usb storage device is hooked up to ubuntu it should be /media/disk)

14. type: chmod 700 NW-E00X_MP3_File_Manager-0.13.jar to make it executeable.

15. type ./NW-E00X_MP3_File_Manager-0.13.jar

16. Voila, now you can dump files onto your Walkman. Just remember to change to /media/disk and type ./NW-E00X_MP3_File_Manager-0.13.jar whenever you want to run the program.

XavierP 01-03-2008 02:18 AM

Thanks for that, looks like a good solution. And the LQ Wiki could be just the place for it!

jestir 09-20-2008 09:17 PM

Asking you.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pencilpoint (Post 2561534)
actually I got it to work without sonicstage or any emulation. if ya want a howto just ask me :) :) :) :) :D

How do i get it to work?

jeremiahbell 09-21-2008 10:10 PM

Symphonic
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jestir (Post 3286860)
How do i get it to work?

use symphonic. The link is in one of my posts above.

Richie55 09-22-2008 02:36 AM

You need to also make sure you have Java installed...


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