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Nvidia 1.0-8174 driver problems, slack10.2

i have tried afew times installing the latest nvidia v1.0-8174 driver but it doesnt work properly. the version i have used before this was 1.0-7676 and it worked.
i did the same steps to setup this driver as i did the last successful one. im gonna try and reinstall the older version in afew minutes and see if that one still works fine as it used to.

the problem is that when i startx, it displays the nice white nvidia splash screen then flickers and goes back to a very distorted console... this would be somewhat ok, since i could try and reconfigure and startx to test again. but this isnt the case; i have to hard-reset the computer to get back to normal console (yes this seems to be the only way) and is annoying.

there are no 'error's in the Xorg log, but there are afew warnings, which ill post (which i bet have nothing to do with it anyway):

Code:

(WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local/".

(WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/".

(WW) Open APM failed (/dev/apm_bios) (No such device)

(WW) NVIDIA(0): Multiple displays connected, but only one display allowed;

(WW) NVIDIA(0):      using first display

(WW) (1400x1050,My Monitor) mode clock 122MHz exceeds DDC maximum 110MHz

(WW) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode "700x525" (height 1050 is larger than

(WW) NVIDIA(0):      EDID-specified maximum 1024)

(WW) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode "576x384":

(WW) NVIDIA(0):  horizontal sync start (589) not a multiple of 8

(WW) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode "360x200":

(WW) NVIDIA(0):  horizontal sync start (378) not a multiple of 8

i run a command like " cat /etc/X11/* | grep -i "1400" " and there are no results... wouldnt there be one, since the error is saying that somewhere i am trying to use resolution 1400x1050?

Thanks

edit:
ok the old one doesnt work either :p
in my lilo.conf i set it "vga=" to "normal". this prevents from having to reboot after the screen flashes (it goes to normal console not screwed up one). i normally have it to "vga=773"

Looks like driver's setup changed your configuration. Check for backup copy of old config file. If there are no backups (or backup was overwritten while installing older driver) re-configure X by some tool or edit configuration manually.

One of the things that changed with the latest drivers is that UseEdidFreqs is now on by default. From the changelog:

"Made UseEdidFreqs "on" by default; the NVIDIA X driver will use the valid HorizSync and VertRefresh frequency ranges from the EDID whenever possible."

This means that, if you were using a resolution that is not "standard" to your monitor, it will be rejected during driver initialization (I had the same problem at home). You can try setting it to false to see if it fixes your problem. Just add:

Option UseEdidFreqs "false"

to the "Device" section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and restart X11.

HTH

Andre

You might want to give new 'nvidia-xconfig' tool a try (nvidia-xconfig -h for options).
It worked fine in this location (I slightly edited "Device" & added "Conposite" extension by hand)

As pvs said, check for backup copy of old config file first.

kozaki/pvs: i think that tool was automatically run after i installed it, and it created a new xorg.conf file, which didnt work.

blueser: ok i never heard of that... however, my monitor is using valid vert/horizontal sync rates and display resolutions, as i got from the manufactuerer's site.. but ill try that option.

thanks all

ok i tried it in the device then monitor sections with no luck.. X displays nvidia splash screen then goes to console, not showing any specific error/warning.

I tried to get NVIDIA run severl times but finally (several weeks ago) I succeded and saved my HOWTO:

go to http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_d..._1.0-7676.html,
download NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7676-pkg1.run and run
# sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7676-pkg1.run

good luck

i know where to get and how to run the install file for the driver.. the problem is with the xorg.conf file.

OK. This includes the critical part of my xorg.conf
My monitor has a (Debian-)non-standard HorizSync range, and until getting the right lower-limit (31.5) I could see nothing. Found the value in the monitor harware specifications. Set it using the Debian configuration tool (additionaly, maybe I also commented out that Driver "nv" line "by hand"?)

Code:

Section "Device"

        Identifier        "NVIDIA Corporation NV20 [GeForce3 Ti 200]"

        Driver                "nvidia"

#        Driver                "nv"

EndSection



Section "Monitor"

        Identifier        "COMPAQ V720"

        HorizSync        31.5-70

        VertRefresh        50-120

        Option                "DPMS"

EndSection



Section "Screen"

        Identifier        "Default Screen"

        Device                "NVIDIA Corporation NV20 [GeForce3 Ti 200]"

        Monitor                "COMPAQ V720"

        DefaultDepth        24

...

ok the only thing i dont have is the Option DPMS.. i have already edited the xorg.conf file by hand and included my sync/refresh rates, as found on the manufacturer's website.

i searched the README file that comes with the installer for DPMS and it couldnt find it.. what is this?

sorry don't know ...

ok i tried that option in the monitor section but X wouldnt start, so it must mean i cant use that there.

This may be the same thing that happened to me, but not to the extent of losing a screen. I run dual monitors and when I upgraded to the new nvidia driver, my right monitor had a smaller display, the OSD display said it was running at 84Khz/68Hz, when in my xorg.conf file I specifically tell it to run both monitors at 48khz/60hz. I figured out that the new driver was getting setting from my moniter (NEC MultiSync 70). Long story short I turned off the detection of the monitor settings with: Option "NoDDC", in the device section.

Hope this works for you.

Here is snippet from my xorg.conf file:

# This monitor is on the NVidia PCI card
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "CompaqCV715"
VendorName "Compaq"
ModelName "CV715"
HorizSync 48 - 48
VertRefresh 60.0 - 60.0
Option "dpms"
EndSection

# This monitor is on the NVidia AGP card
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "NECMSync70"
VendorName "NEC"
ModelName "MultiSync70"
HorizSync 48 - 48
VertRefresh 60.0 - 60.0
Option "dpms"
EndSection

# This section is for the PCI Card 0x0171
Section "Device"
Identifier "NVidiaPCI"
Driver "nvidia"
VendorName "Videocard vendor"
BoardName "NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440"
BusID "PCI:0:11:0"
Option "ConnectedMonitor" "CRT"
Option "TVStandard" "NTSC-M"
Option "NoDDC"
# Option "TVOutFormat" "CRT"
EndSection

# This section is for the AGP Card 0x0182
Section "Device"
Identifier "NvidiaAGP"
Driver "nvidia"
VendorName "NVidia"
BoardName "NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440se with AGP8X"
BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
Option "ConnectedMonitor" "CRT"
Option "NoDDC"
EndSection

# Screen section for AGP card
Section "Screen"
Identifier "ScreenAGP"
Device "NVidiaAGP"
Monitor "NECMSync70"
DefaultDepth 16
SubSection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "1024x768"
EndSubSection
EndSection

# Screen section for PCI card
Section "Screen"
Identifier "ScreenPCI"
Device "NVidiaPCI"
Monitor "CompaqCV715"
DefaultDepth 16
SubSection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "1024x768"
EndSubSection
EndSection

ok thanks :D

as i said, i tried the option DPMS (in caps i did, u did yours in lowercase, i wouldnt think that would matter would it?), and it didnt even startx

ill check out that NoDCC setting you had, maybe those 2 options/settings go hand in hand

Thanks

nadroj (and others)

Just as an information, just in case: a recent experience with Nvidia.

I made a major upgrade of my Debian testing, which also involved many updates concerning the X system. Afterwards, X/KDE failed to start, although Nvidia showed its splash but nothing more happened: the system just changed to black screen and console login.:cry:

I got an advice from a friend: Probably the X update resets some links to point at the wrong (default) graphics library. Try to fix that (or maybe re-install Nvidia)!:tisk:

Luckily a had saved the installation package that I last used (NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7676-pkg1.run) and just run it again from the console with no problems. That fixed the links (or whatever, don't know really) and the graphics is OK again.:p

I did not touch the xorg.conf file (the earlier update didn't either since it's manually changed long ago).