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Old 12-16-2012, 10:06 AM   #16
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Hi,

'UEFI' protocol is not the issue. You can now use 'UEFI' protocol. 'Secure boot' is a 'UEFI' feature that Microsoft is implementing. That is an issue when one cannot disable 'Secure boot', most OEM will provide the means to disable. You can then use the machine as legacy 'BIOS' mode for standard 'PXE' or work with 'UEFI PXE' KEK to provide the means to install. Linux kernel does provide the means, the user will have to learn to use things properly.

My question to you is how 'PXE' is the way to do what? How do you expect to enable the 'PXE' via 'UEFI'? 'UEFI PXE' is available. You will still need to integrate KEK for that install. You could use 'iPXE' (work in progress) to do a standard install;
Work in progress! Plus you will need the ROM. Standard 'PXE' would not work with 'UEFI' protocol, you would need to set to 'BIOS' mode then do install via standard 'PXE'. Your machine would be in 'BIOS' mode.

HTH!
I was thinking within the confines of a secure boot m$ style on my box w/windows 8. In the incarnation I have it in, dual boot seems impossible.
Disabling secure boot disables gpt (i.e. hard disk) booting.
Disabling GPT disables windows 8.
Enabling secure boot locks you onto the hd, which, as explained, checks and fixes itself to be m$ only every time it wakes up in windows 8.
Besides those, PXE looks more attractive.

I have disabled secure boot, installed Slackware-14.0 and left the dvd in the cdrom. With that, I can type a line of boot parameters and get running on the box's root with the dvd kernel. To start windows, I need to revisit the BIOS and enable secure boot. As I lost my last motherboard because the Bios were rewritten too often, I'm not likely to take this approach too tar.

So there it ends for the moment - with an eternal question. I have emailed Samsung support and offered to warn the linux community about how unsuitable any samsung uefi box like mine is for linux and pointed out that I wanted to install linux with windows in a vm perhaps. I'll post on the outcome.

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Old 12-17-2012, 06:38 AM   #17
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Have you tried booting off a usb stick? It might be more convenient than using the dvd.
 
Old 12-17-2012, 02:37 PM   #18
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The box is congeitally incapable ob usb booting under any circumstances. Got a 60G SSD for 75 which arrived today. Installed Slackware-14.0 and am up and running without secure boot. Hello from RoseViolet :-P.

If any uefi developer wants to try his stuff I still have the hd here.
 
Old 05-16-2013, 02:18 AM   #19
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The box is congeitally incapable ob usb booting under any circumstances. Got a 60G SSD for 75 which arrived today. Installed Slackware-14.0 and am up and running without secure boot. Hello from RoseViolet :-P.

If any uefi developer wants to try his stuff I still have the hd here.
So the solution is to buy a new HDD???Could you please provide more info about the procedure.

I need your help because i am in the same situation, i just bought a samsung laptop - same model as the one that described at the first post, and installing linux looks the same as the theory of relevativity!!!!!!!!

I'm very disappointed with samsung.Is my first laptop, and i waited the moment to install my favorite slackware and get rid of the sucked win 8.....and i realize that is build only for hosting win OS.....I'm pretty close to sell it and buy a dell with ubuntu pre-installed...:P::P:P:P:P:P:P
 
Old 05-16-2013, 04:33 AM   #20
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What I did was buy a 60G SSD (doesn't have to be ssd), partition it with fdisk (not gdisk). It was gpt so I deleted all partitions and started with fdisk. Here's my partition table
Code:
   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *        2048      206847      102400   83  Linux
/dev/sda2          206848    12881919     6337536   82  Linux swap
/dev/sda3        12881920    44582911    15850496   83  Linux
/dev/sda4        44582912   117229567    36323328    5  Extended
/dev/sda5        44584960    76271615    15843328   83  Linux
/dev/sda6        76273664   117229567    20477952   83  Linux
They are, in order: common boot; common swap; slackware /; extended partition; fedora / ; common home.

Slackware went on fine, but fedora shrieked in protest, the installer barfed big time and I eventually shoehorned it on manually, which was a nightmare. I just needed fedora's electronic spin.

The original gpt disk is lying in a drawer awaiting the warranty return to Samsung. My keyboard chip is dying.
 
Old 05-22-2013, 03:17 PM   #21
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Thanks a lot for the info.

Choosing legacy at BIOS options i could say that the behavior is as the old good days.....you could install as we all know ,and install lilo and boot.....wahhhh!!!!!

Working a few hours with my slack ,choosing xfce, some time after random time laptop freeze and no key combination is working, e.g alt+f7, alt+ctrl+backspace

only possible option is to press power button in order to forced shut down and power on again.

I have slack 32bit 14 with full installation chosen.
did you notice any related behavior at your case????
 
Old 05-22-2013, 03:41 PM   #22
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The only time I recall seeing this sort of behaviour with slackware was when I had issues with the Nvidia driver.
 
Old 05-22-2013, 04:47 PM   #23
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Had this once or twice here, too. No sense or reason to it - I think it's a BIOS thing. I'm on Intel graphics. Then the keyboard chip went funny, but the crashes stopped :-).
 
Old 05-27-2013, 03:56 PM   #24
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It is still reproducible with slackware 14 x64 full installation and using xfce

I'm very disappointed.....i want to paint the laptop blue and throw it to the aegean sea....

What do you mean when you say that "the keyboard chip went funny"???

you are my last chance i suppose ,because you claimed that crashes stopped!!!!!
 
Old 05-27-2013, 09:08 PM   #25
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@business kid were you able to get a working system on original hdd, or are you just saving it for rainy day?
 
Old 05-28-2013, 04:57 AM   #26
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To get a working system, I'd have had to reformat gpt at the time.

This thread is six months old. Since the information in this thread was posted, some UEFI capable distributions have come along. I have not tried them. I believe Samsung's implementation under windows 8 is particularly problematic. I like to forget I have windows 8, and like not to think about it as windows 8 is really that bad.
 
Old 05-29-2013, 05:34 AM   #27
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I think i found the cause of the problem.......
It looks that wpa_gui application crash the system.....
I remember that the last app that that i open was that, and after a couple o minutes the laptop freeze ...

When i start again the laptop , i was able to use i, for a long time without the freeze problem.....
 
  


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