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I am afraid tobi is correct. I already have a decent HP laptop that works well, but still as a laptop has its limitaion. The only arts on a laptop that are easy to upgrade are HDD & RAM, both of which are limited. My HP is already maxed out at 8gb ram and a 750 gb HDD. Unfortunately, it is difficult to find an hdd bigger than 1tb for a laptop, which also only has the capacity for a single hdd. Plus, there is compatability issues when you upgrade an hdd too much. |
linuxPCplus, No problem. I just latched on to your $400 max and was thinking in terms of something immediately. If you have the rest of your life to build it, then by all means get the best components one at a time as you can afford them and build it from scratch.
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Not bad if you need 1TB+ in a laptop, but not that great either. Its only SATA-II (not that SATA-II and SATA-III have much different with current HDDs) 8MB small cache, and its $225+. You can get faster 2TB+ desktop drives for half the price. Quote:
Even if you have an old SATA-I motherboard, and the drive wont work as native SATA-III on a SATA-I port, its possible to use a jumper to force SATA-I mode. Quote:
That seasonic isnt ATX, and could (will IMO) have major fitting issues in ATX cases. Quote:
Since you've got a turion II P560 (2.5GHz, 2 x 1MB L2 cache) pretty much any current dual-core CPU would be faster. A readon 4200 is an older, low end, intergrated video setup, so pretty much any current desktop GPU would be faster as well. Quote:
I wouldnt trust any $50 case + PSU. Cheap PSUs are IMO the most likely single part to cause issues with your computer. I'd get a decent 500 watt PSU, like this- SeaSonic S12II 520 Bronze 520W, $68. Yeah, I know, you can get a case + PSU cheaper....yuo get what you pay for. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817151094 2nd choice, CORSAIR Builder Series CX500, $60 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139027 If you want something upgradable in your motherboard/CPU setup, either get an Intel LGA 1155 or AMD AM3+ system. I wont suggest a Intel LGA 1155 motherboard + CPU, I dont know the Intel stuff anywhere near as well as AMD. AM3+ boards I'd think of getting- GIGABYTE GA-970A-UD3 AM3+, $104- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128519 2nd choice, ASUS M5A97 R2.0, $90- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131873 There is also a few asrock AM3+ 970chipset boards that are very cheap (ASRock 970 PRO3) but I'd get the gigabyte. You'll probably want a DVD-RW, they are cheap $20 or so. So you can get a great PSU, motherboard, DVD-RW for $192. That leaves $208 for a video card (you'll need one, no onboard vieeo with the AM3+ 9XX chipset boards), RAM, and CPU. You can get a ATI/AMD 5450 for $30 or so. Faster than the 4200 by a long shot. The cheapest of the CPUs that will run in an AM3+ board (which is faster than your P560) from newegg is $60 (dual-core athlon II X2 270), you can get a triple core for $70 (AMD Athlon II X3 450/455) and a quad-core for $95 (Phenom II X4 955). 8GB (2 x 4GB sticks) can be had for $35-40. Even if you got the Phenom II X4 955 there is enough wiggle room to get a new SATA HDD, or an aftermarket heatsink, or maybe bump the video card a little to somethign better, or the CPU. |
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The significant differences between the 5800K and the 5700 are that the former is unlocked for overclocking and draws 100 watts, and the latter is locked but only draws 65 watts. Good catch re the power supply. Sorry about that! Quote:
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My final design
Here is my final design. Thank you to all who helped me with this!
1. CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103871 2.Case: ATX case I was given a cpuple days ago 3. Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2E16813128510R 97.99 4. DVD drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827135204 5. PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817171031 6. Ram: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820139975 Total cost: $309.80 This system is designed to meet the following primary concerns I had: Budget of $400 Powwerful enough for live broadcasting & gaming Easily & extensively upgradable on an incremental basis Linux compatibility (I verified each part for this) I just ordered everything above. I figure I can put about $150/month into upgrades, so within 6 months or less this machine will be much more powerful! If anyone would like updates on my success with this, let me know & I will post it here. Thanks again for all the advice! |
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I'd suggest avoiding 'open box' deals with newegg unless you've got the parts, and knowledge to know quickly if there is a problem. The 'open box' return policy is pretty vicious, and pretty much means the warranty period (on gigabyte boards anyway) goes from 3 years to virtually nothing. Quote:
So you've got 30 days from when newegg has invoiced you to when the part must be recivied by newegg. 990X chipsets are have features that most of the 970s dont (namely multipule GPU setups, crossfire or SLI). If you arent planning on running multipule video cards for gaming, its a pointless feature. Coolmaster eXtreme Power Plus RS500? Avoid. http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/artic...ply-Review/728 I've used coolmaster PSUs for budget builds before, some of the PSUs are O.K. I would not be spending $50 on one if you can get a PSU with better efficiency, more stable voltages, less ripple, and actually capable of delivering what the sticker says, etc. for $10-15 more. Compare the coolermaster to teh seasnoic- http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/artic...y-Review/954/1 abefroman has a good point, get 2 x 4GB sticks for dual channel memory access. BTW, the AM3+ CPU ('bulldozer' and 'piledriver') that you may end up upgrading to support DDR3-1866. Running DDR3-1333 is possible, but its slower than the faster memory. I'd either drop down to 1 x 4GB stick DDR3-1333 or get some slightly more expensive, faster DDR3-1866 (or faster) sticks. *edit- you'll need a video card if you want to have a monitor on your new system. |
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