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Old 07-06-2004, 01:19 AM   #1
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Need to copy files from a very old SCSI drive


Hello all,

I have an interesting situation I need assitance with.

I have a really old 16 bit box that has a SCSI hard drive which is attached to a 16 bit SCSI card and has information on it that I really want to copy and preserve. This old box has only 16 bit slots and the information is too large to put on floppies.

My home box is a fairly new Dell 4550 with an IDE drive, a vacant 16 bit slot and has Fedora Core 1 installed. Can I take the old SCSI drive and 16 bit SCSI card out of the older box, install it in my Dell and then access the information?

After installing it and booting, will Kudzu find the SCSI drive and do some configuring? Will I be able to mount it as I would any other file system? If so how?

I've found several things on the net about how to add an IDE to a machine that already has a SCSI, but nothing yet on doing the reverse. I just don't want to do anything that could potentially destroy the information on this SCSI drive. Any suggestions on how I should go about this? Thanks!
 
Old 07-06-2004, 06:26 AM   #2
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Image hard drive to remote ssh server:

Requirements:

Access to remote ssh server
Enough space to store the image
Process: Make changes where necessary to match your system setup.

Boot from the live cdrom distribution. (such as knoppix)
Switch to root
Make sure NO partitions are mounted from the source hard drive.
Execute the following command, making necessary changes for your system:
dd if=/dev/hda | ssh user@remotehost /bin/dd of=/tmp/mypc_hda.img

Restore hard drive from remote ssh server:

Requirements:

Access to remote ssh server
Hard drive with equal or greater capacity than the hard drive image.
Process: Make changes where necessary to match your system setup.

Boot from the live cdrom distribution.
Switch to root
Make sure NO partitions are mounted from the source hard drive.
Execute the following command, making necessary changes for your system:
ssh user@remotehost cat /tmp/mypc_hda.img | dd of=/dev/hda
 
Old 07-06-2004, 08:57 AM   #3
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Thanks for your quick response.
I do this after the SCSI drive is installed in the Dell? or from the old 16 bit box where the SCSI drive currently resides?
If the later, I have no way of doing so because the old box isn't "networkable" and has no cdrom, only 3.5 and 5 inch floppy drives. By the way, the SCSI drive is DOS.
If from the Dell, it's present IDE drive is already hda. Wouldn't that copy my IDE drive instead of the added SCSI drive? Or will Fedora find the SCSI drive and newly asign it the status of hda somehow?
The Dell is presently on a network with two other boxes. One runs Core 2 and also has 16 bit slots. Can I install the SCSI drive into the box running Core 2 and ssh it to my Dell via Knoppix in the same way as in the directions you give?
Please forgive me, if these are dumb questions.
Thanks again.
 
Old 07-06-2004, 10:39 PM   #4
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I had a similar situation in the past and the solution I used was to insert the SCSI drive into the new machine. The new machine recognised the SCSI drive (sda). I then mounted sda to a location on my system. Actually, I don't know much about linux so this may not be the correct way to do this. I created a directory on the hda (say /data) and then mounted the new drive at the point /data. I was then able to access everything on the old drive at the /data location. Once all the old data is removed or copied to the new location, you can unmount the old drive (umount), shut down and physically remove the old drive. At the time, I was running SuSE 8.1 and fount that no matter how many times or how I unmounted the drive, it was always looking for it on boot. The solution was to umount the drive, then edit the fstab file and comment out the line for the drive.

I am sure I have suggested doing this that Linux experts are horrified at. So, before you attempt it, perhaps some people who know more could suggest how to do this safely.
 
Old 07-08-2004, 09:49 PM   #5
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Anyone else? I can use all the help I can get..
 
Old 07-10-2004, 07:57 AM   #6
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Thanks MaverickApollo and TongueTied for your responses.
 
  


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