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Old 08-30-2002, 03:58 PM   #1
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MP3 Players


I was unable to find any information on the Web.

I am hoping that some one will be able to help me. I am planning to buy a MP3 Juke box player some thing like the Creative 10gb player. I need to know does linux support MP3 jukebox player if so which ones. I would also like some web links.

Thanks alot

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Old 08-31-2002, 12:09 AM   #2
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Well I would think that it would depend on how they connect would determine how well it would work with Linux. If it's USB, it would probably work like any mass storabe usb device. I would suggest going that route, and looking for one that connects usb. But having not ever had one of those, I really couldn't say beyond that.

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Old 08-31-2002, 03:03 AM   #3
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10 gigs! on usb! you need firewire buddy, although i dont think that linux supports that very well.
 
Old 08-31-2002, 03:17 AM   #4
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damn, yeah. Unless you wanna be there a coupe of hours...USB is slow...when it comes to things that beggin getting close to the big G-bytes. People are always like..."oh damn, USB so convenient and FAST!"....it's BS...SCSI however IS convenient and FAST!!!!!, and well like Goatdemon said, don't even mention Firewire, heheh, a beauty, .
 
Old 08-31-2002, 03:43 AM   #5
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Well, I would have to disagree. Firewire works fine in Linux. I transfer my digital video no problem to my Linux Box via Firewire.

But as for 10GB on USB, that's no biggie, especially if both the device and the BUS are 2.0. If not, not a biggie, they will just set it up to tx, and then go watch a show, eat dinner, surf LQ, whatever. To connect something like an external device via SCSI (especially one of these) is going to be a very unlikely feature. Probably the same with FireWire, but if that's an option, I'd probably go for it. You might wanna read up on it first, and if you have one, keep you local geek standing by to help you.

If it connects like a removable drive, that would be ok, but even still, that's really not very fast. I don't know, but I think ATA100 and things like that means it moves at 100MB/sec, which compared to Firewire is 1/4th as fast, and USB 2.0 1/8th as fast. But would be alot faster than 1.0 like the guys said.

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Old 08-31-2002, 01:10 PM   #6
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harddrives dont always run at their maximum speed, the max (100mb/sec) usually only rarely happens and in short bursts at that. FireWire puts through 400 Mb/s vs. USB's 12 Mb/s. http://www.techtv.com/screensavers/a...406307,00.html usb 2.0 should move at 480mb/s but it's supposed to be buggy.
 
Old 08-31-2002, 03:40 PM   #7
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Well, I would have to disagree. Firewire works fine in Linux. I transfer my digital video no problem to my Linux Box via Firewire.
If it connects like a removable drive, that would be ok, but even still, that's really not very fast. I don't know, but I think ATA100 and things like that means it moves at 100MB/sec, which compared to Firewire is 1/4th as fast, and USB 2.0 1/8th as fast. But would be alot faster than 1.0 like the guys said.

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No bro, I think you got my meaning a little thrown off. I meant that Firewire was the BOMB, like it would kick SCSI's butt no question. But that from the Three USB is the worse...eventhough it is given lots and lots of credit...I suspect it is because M$ has a lot to do with the sponsoring of the development of that technology. And well you kindda know that I dislike USB, hehe. But if someone's using it, well what can you do about it but deal with what you have,
Anyway, just wanted to clarify that bro,
 
Old 08-31-2002, 11:20 PM   #8
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Yeah, actually now that I go back and read it, I see that you were actually saying that Firewire rocks. Cool, sorry for the bad interpretation.

Yes I do agree that USB does have a lot of hype, and it's probably because MSFT is so gung ho on it. But I wouldn't say it's any worse than serial or similar.

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Old 08-31-2002, 11:32 PM   #9
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Man you should have watched me transferring images off my digital camera Fuji MX-600 via serial port, untill I got a dazzle usb smart media reader. Unfortunatelly, I am on a market for new digital camera - Fuji was good untill I ran it over with my own car - it didn't endure the stress test
 
Old 09-01-2002, 01:20 AM   #10
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You might want to look at sony's line up. Only their upper end stuff is really cool, but their lower end take great pics. I have also noticed that there are a few REALLY nice new 6megapixel cameras that are SLR digital. If you are really into photography, this would be something to look into. They aren't really THAT bad in price for what they are. Running at ~$2k, it would be a good camera for the photography expert.

If you are looking for a camera to just take some good pics with, nothing fancy, I would suggest checking out Sony's mid priced cams. Their DSC-S75 and S85 would be what I'd suggest. Not that the P series are really bad, I don't think they have the Carl Zeiss Lens's.

I have the DSC-S50 and it's an amazing camera. Takes great shots of just about anything for a Mid-Line 2.1 MegaPixel cam.

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Old 09-01-2002, 03:40 AM   #11
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my parents just got the new Minolta 4.0 megapixels in Japan for $700. It's a cool camera, even though I actually HATE digital cameras, I preffer my very cool Pentax Advantix system camera, the pictures are as good, and I like more films than those little blue cards that get filled up and you get screwed if you forgot to buy another 2 256meg memory card "oh, oops!"
I got my camera last year in HongKong for $150 bucks, and it was the Pentax top of the line, VERY cool camera. It even has a continuos picture mode where the camera continue to take photos, and it'll make like a video if you put the all together. It's for like pictures taken to fashion models, where you need to take them really fast!, like 7 pictures per second. And you can add 250 preset messages on the back of the picture, to remind you whether this was your vacation, a marriage, christmas, bitrthday, you can even write who's birthday, , and all sort of cool stuff.
All those digital cameras are battery huggers, slow, and in most cases hard to use. I can never tell when my parents stupid camera has already taken the picture cuz it doesn't click...like wtf?? Then they look on the screen and it took like 3 cuz it's so hard to tell whether the camera is done taking the picture. All the people that we asked us to take us picutres, were like, "hmm, did this thing already take the picture?", and they would stand like 20 second infront of us, trying to figure out if the thing took the picture.
See, digital cameras are like flat screen monitors, and like USB whatever, hehehe, they are just not that good and they are a head egg!!, oh and they are expensive as hell too!!(the most important fact)
 
Old 09-01-2002, 04:12 AM   #12
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I have a rebuttel!!! Only to a portion, the rest is all subjectional...

The Sony DSC-S50 and TRV-830 Digital Camcorder(and probably others, but that's the only ones I can comment on) both have an option to have your camera make a "picture taking" sound when a picture has been taken.

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Old 09-01-2002, 04:25 AM   #13
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In the USB vs. Firewire point I've got one major factoid to toss in: when your talking about something ipod-esque, where is the data going to and from? 2 spinning platters. In the case of the ipod, 4800rpm? and the desktop, who cares, but the sustained data-pull is still going to be something on the order of maxing out at 50Megs/Sec, and that's with cranked ata133. USB 2 or Firewire isn't going to be the issue really. What is the throughput of USB 1 anyway, 11Megabytes a sec or megabits... I'm now a proud owner of my first USB device. As far as a 10Gb Ipod-ish toy goes... when are you going to be uploading more than 100Megs of data at a shot anyway... that's usually 3 albums for me (at a slack 128b/r).

There's a lot of arguments for "newer, faster, better", but my house MP3 server does me fine and I just found out it hdparm's at a whopping 3.5 Megs/sec.

Sorry, $.02

Cheers,

Finegan
 
Old 09-01-2002, 02:55 PM   #14
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I have a rebuttel!!! Only to a portion, the rest is all subjectional...

The Sony DSC-S50 and TRV-830 Digital Camcorder(and probably others, but that's the only ones I can comment on) both have an option to have your camera make a "picture taking" sound when a picture has been taken.

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yeah, what about when you are outside where there's TONS of people all walking around and talking, and cars are near by, honks are going off...what does the camera have that little sound on, a 400watt stereo speaker?, hehehe. If you're going traveling...most plases you visit are outside where there's plenty of sound and not some super quiet place where I can hear a speaker the size of a mini earphone goes "paaawww", :P

yeah, finegan, those tansfers are indeed limited by the actual device...so the interface speed is not really that big of a difference.
 
Old 09-02-2002, 01:37 PM   #15
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Hi, well actually believe it or not, this thing is loud. It's amazingly loud for the mini speaker it's coming out of. I can hear it anywhere I have ever gone. Yes true a lot of my pictures are "scenic" but I have taken my share of vacation photos. I went to the olympics back on in Feb, and there isn't much of a louder crowd than the world It worked fine there. And that is what the LCD viewer is for you know, to view the image you are capturing. So if you are looking at the picture you are taking, and the LCD notifies you it's been taken, well then, I would guess you wouldn't really need sounds. Unless of course you need large spot lights, sirens, a few flashing red and blue lights, maybe 2 light houses, and a lighter to notify you when the picture has been taken

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