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Old 07-25-2007, 09:15 AM   #1
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Question Monitor don't want 1280x1024 60 Hz


My monitor under Suse10.2 allways installs 1280x1024 75 Hz. This brings my screen to a small stripe of 5 mm om the right side. If I try to modify the resolution bye thr hardwareswitches on the screen, it always tells me 1280x1024x75 Hz. Best resolution will be at 1280x1024x60 Hz. I have used the program
gtf 1280 1024 60
and I modify the file for graphics
I get 1600x1024x60 with this values
under windows it works well
I see Hf 63.9 Hz Vf 60 Hz and 1280x1024

What I have to do ?
Paul7
 
Old 07-25-2007, 09:18 AM   #2
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The monitor just displays the signal it gets from the graphics card. So, you should try configuring the graphics card.

The tool to use in SuSE is SaX2.
 
Old 07-25-2007, 11:15 AM   #3
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Edit the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf and find the Monitor section. My xorg.conf file has here:
Code:
    HorizSync       31.0 - 81.0
    VertRefresh     56.0 - 75.0
Since you want the vertical frequency to be 60 Hz, it may work to change the second line to:
Code:
    VertRefresh     60.0 - 60.0
and restart X windows.
 
Old 07-27-2007, 08:24 AM   #4
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not better

I try several things to get a solution.
I try
lspci
I got
01.00.0 ATI Radeon R200 QM (Radeon 9100)
at the hardware I see Samsung TFT LCD 17" in front. Behind I see Orion
in yast I saw before
Monitor ----
Screen
SEC 170EI-AD1-V50 1280-1024 SXVGA 16.7 M 24 B
Now I tried to go to ATI to find the driver for this monitor
http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/l...n-prer200.html
There you can find a Driver 8,28.8
I download all what is neccessary.
After download I start the extraction.
It offers me a direct installation or build a RPM
After building the RPM you get the information that you have to aticonfig at console level and you have to save the xconfiguration. The program do it anyway than you kwow the name of the file for recovering.
I run everything and restart the system.
the system starts up but it will not go to the X
I restored the old config
The system start nearly than before,
If I use YAST/Sax2 I see
Monitor ATI Radeon R200 QM
screen is the the same as before
but now all things ar more bat then before
xorg.conf generated bz aticonfig is buggy
but I have to find out.
What can I do
Paul7
 
Old 07-27-2007, 12:30 PM   #5
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My suggestion requires changing just one line in xorg.conf, and you can very easily change it back. So far as I can tell, you haven't tried it.

What bigrigdriver has told you is not correct. It is not the graphics card or the video driver that determine the signal timings to the monitor. X Windows does that. And the way you control what X Windows does is through what you put in the xorg.conf file.
 
Old 07-27-2007, 02:13 PM   #6
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Your monitor lies to you.
 
Old 07-27-2007, 10:55 PM   #7
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GregLee
My suggestion requires changing just one line in xorg.conf, and you can very easily change it back. So far as I can tell, you haven't tried it.

What bigrigdriver has told you is not correct. It is not the graphics card or the video driver that determine the signal timings to the monitor. X Windows does that. And the way you control what X Windows does is through what you put in the xorg.conf file.
I've modified in xorg.conf the
VertRefresh 43-76 -> 60-60
after reboot I get 1600x1024 60 Hz and the warning message from the Monitor
that the best is 1280x1024 Hz this does't go away
so I changed back to the origine.
Now I try to modify which was generated by aticonfig
 
Old 07-27-2007, 11:33 PM   #8
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X doesn't know you want 1280x1024 unless you tell it. In the Screen section, you want something similar to this:
Code:
    DefaultDepth    24
    SubSection     "Display"
        Viewport    0 0
        Depth       24
        Modes      "1280x1024"
    EndSubSection
 
Old 07-28-2007, 05:04 AM   #9
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GregLee
X doesn't know you want 1280x1024 unless you tell it. In the Screen section, you want something similar to this:
Code:
    DefaultDepth    24
    SubSection     "Display"
        Viewport    0 0
        Depth       24
        Modes      "1280x1024"
    EndSubSection
After I put in Viewport 0 0
the system don't want to go to Graphical mode
what is so different in SUSE 10.2 or inside the driver
during boottime the system use the right values, I chect it with the hardware button on the screen.
The same I by shutdown.At this time I have
Hf 63.9 Hz and Vf 60 Hz. This are te values I want later too.
The trouble starts when I go to X aand ends when I left.
I think it is realy a driver problem which is loaded when you go to X.
the origine is radeon. i changed it to fglxr, but this don't want to go to X. Do you know the name of the low level driver? Maybe this will help!!!
 
Old 07-28-2007, 05:36 AM   #10
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Maybe you should post the sections device, monitor and screen from your xorg.conf so we can have a look at them.

And a monitor does NOT need/have a driver.
 
Old 07-28-2007, 08:59 AM   #11
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I'd guess the free driver you'd use is "radeon" or "ati". X will guess which driver is best and construct a .conf file for you if you exit X and say "Xorg -configure". (But it won't use the non-free fglxr driver.)
 
Old 07-29-2007, 03:43 AM   #12
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This is my complete xorg.conf. I don't see anything what should be wrong.
If I switch the screen to 60 Hz with a desktop tool, it goes to 1600x1024.
This is line in the section modes.
Thak you.
Paul



# /.../
# SaX generated X11 config file
# Created on: 2007-07-23T21:21:38+0700.
#
# Version: 8.1
# Contact: Marcus Schaefer <sax@suse.de>, 2005
# Contact: SaX-User list <https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/sax-users>
#
# Automatically generated by [ISaX] (8.1)
# PLEASE DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE!
#

Section "Files"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/Type1"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/URW"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/Speedo"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/cyrillic"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/baekmuk:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/japanese:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/truetype"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/uni:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc/sgi:unscaled"
FontPath "/opt/kde3/share/fonts"
FontPath "/usr/local/share/fonts"
InputDevices "/dev/gpmdata"
InputDevices "/dev/input/mice"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
Option "AllowMouseOpenFail"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load "dri"
Load "freetype"
Load "type1"
Load "dbe"
Load "glx"
Load "extmod"
Load "v4l"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Driver "kbd"
Identifier "Keyboard[0]"
Option "Protocol" "Standard"
Option "XkbLayout" "us"
Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"
EndSection


Section "InputDevice"
Driver "mouse"
Identifier "Mouse[1]"
Option "Buttons" "7"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "Name" "ImExPS/2 Generic Explorer Mouse"
Option "Protocol" "explorerps/2"
Option "Vendor" "Sysp"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection


Section "Monitor"
DisplaySize 340 270
HorizSync 29-81
Identifier "Monitor[0]"
ModelName "170EI-A01-V50"
Option "DPMS"
VendorName "SEC"
VertRefresh 43-76
UseModes "Modes[0]"
EndSection


Section "Modes"
Identifier "Modes[0]"
Modeline "1280x1024" 128.94 1280 1368 1504 1728 1024 1025 1028 1066
Modeline "1280x1024" 119.40 1280 1368 1504 1728 1024 1025 1028 1063
Modeline "1280x1024" 108.88 1280 1360 1496 1712 1024 1025 1028 1060
Modeline "1280x960" 122.11 1280 1368 1504 1728 960 961 964 1000
Modeline "1280x960" 111.52 1280 1360 1496 1712 960 961 964 997
Modeline "1280x960" 102.10 1280 1360 1496 1712 960 961 964 994
Modeline "1280x800" 100.78 1280 1360 1496 1712 800 801 804 833
Modeline "1280x800" 92.08 1280 1352 1488 1696 800 801 804 831
Modeline "1280x800" 83.46 1280 1344 1480 1680 800 801 804 828
Modeline "1152x864" 97.69 1152 1224 1344 1536 864 865 868 900
Modeline "1152x864" 90.02 1152 1224 1344 1536 864 865 868 897
Modeline "1152x864" 81.62 1152 1216 1336 1520 864 865 868 895
Modeline "1280x768" 95.88 1280 1352 1488 1696 768 769 772 800
Modeline "1280x768" 88.42 1280 1352 1488 1696 768 769 772 798
Modeline "1280x768" 80.14 1280 1344 1480 1680 768 769 772 795
Modeline "1024x768" 76.89 1024 1080 1192 1360 768 769 772 800
Modeline "1024x768" 70.07 1024 1080 1184 1344 768 769 772 798
Modeline "1024x768" 64.11 1024 1080 1184 1344 768 769 772 795
Modeline "1280x600" 80.06 1280 1344 1480 1680 600 601 604 627
Modeline "1280x600" 73.49 1280 1336 1472 1664 600 601 604 625
Modeline "1280x600" 67.08 1280 1336 1464 1648 600 601 604 623
Modeline "1280x600" 61.50 1280 1336 1464 1648 600 601 604 622
Modeline "1024x600" 64.04 1024 1080 1184 1344 600 601 604 627
Modeline "1024x600" 58.65 1024 1072 1176 1328 600 601 604 625
Modeline "1024x600" 54.05 1024 1072 1176 1328 600 601 604 623
Modeline "1024x600" 48.96 1024 1064 1168 1312 600 601 604 622
Modeline "800x600" 45.93 800 840 920 1040 600 601 604 625
Modeline "800x600" 42.33 800 840 920 1040 600 601 604 623
Modeline "800x600" 38.22 800 832 912 1024 600 601 604 622
Modeline "768x576" 42.06 768 800 880 992 576 577 580 600
Modeline "768x576" 38.82 768 800 880 992 576 577 580 599
Modeline "768x576" 34.96 768 792 872 976 576 577 580 597
Modeline "640x480" 28.83 640 664 728 816 480 481 484 500
Modeline "640x480" 26.60 640 664 728 816 480 481 484 499
Modeline "640x480" 23.86 640 656 720 800 480 481 484 497
EndSection


Section "Screen"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Depth 15
Modes "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1280x800" "1152x864" "1280x768" "1024x768" "1280x600" "1024x600" "800x600" "768x576" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1280x800" "1152x864" "1280x768" "1024x768" "1280x600" "1024x600" "800x600" "768x576" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1280x800" "1152x864" "1280x768" "1024x768" "1280x600" "1024x600" "800x600" "768x576" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 32
Modes "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1280x800" "1152x864" "1280x768" "1024x768" "800x600" "768x576" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 8
Modes "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1280x800" "1152x864" "1280x768" "1024x768" "1280x600" "1024x600" "800x600" "768x576" "640x480"
EndSubSection
Device "Device[0]"
Identifier "Screen[0]"
Monitor "Monitor[0]"
EndSection


Section "Device"
BoardName "Radeon 9100 QM"
BusID "1:0:0"
Driver "radeon"
Identifier "Device[0]"
Option "usevnc" "no"
Screen 0
VendorName "ATI"
EndSection


Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Layout[all]"
InputDevice "Keyboard[0]" "CoreKeyboard"
InputDevice "Mouse[1]" "CorePointer"
Option "Clone" "off"
Option "Xinerama" "off"
Screen "Screen[0]"
EndSection


Section "DRI"
Group "video"
Mode 0660
EndSection

Section "Extensions"
EndSection
 
Old 07-29-2007, 04:03 AM   #13
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Hello

What you also could do, if you manage to return to the first situation (small stripe of 5 mm), is to use xvidtune to generate a modeline. See http://linux.die.net/man/1/xvidtune for details.

Bye

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Old 07-29-2007, 04:53 AM   #14
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good advice

i tried it and it worked
 
Old 07-30-2007, 09:35 AM   #15
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Hello

What you also could do, if you manage to return to the first situation (small stripe of 5 mm), is to use xvidtune to generate a modeline. See http://linux.die.net/man/1/xvidtune for details.

Bye

Koen Plessers
It works much better now. But 60 Hz is still not available
 
  


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