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Old 11-29-2009, 11:00 PM   #1
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Mobiledev, lookslikeanetbook, restoreswSDCARDw.nb0 file 2 WinCE, but I WANT LINUX!!!!


Excuse the subject title, trying to be as descriptive as possible.

Hi, Iam trying this forum, perhaps you guys can help me.

I need to convert a file *.iso to *.nb0.

Posted this first in the netbook and laptops forum, they practically said that at the moment it is a "no can do".
They said something about a ROM file.

Can someone show me a tool or something to get this little laptop to run on LINUX?
I am not going to say anything about WinCE....promise!!

Thanks.

Here is the original post, still unsolved....

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ws-ce.-768193/
 
Old 11-29-2009, 11:32 PM   #2
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I would use UNetbootin to install regular Ubuntu. Then, once installed, if it's overkill for you, you can downgrade (or upgrade depending on how you look at it) to netbook remix with the following command:

Code:
sudo aptitude install ubuntu-netbook-remix
Actually, you can almost certainly install Ubuntu Netbook Remix right from UNetBootin. See if it's listed in the dropdown menu. If it isn't, you probably still can, but it will be more "advanced" and you'll probably instead just want to do the original thing I suggested.

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Old 11-29-2009, 11:45 PM   #3
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Interesting.. I read the old post, and did some Googling, and here's the interesting links I've come up with. I know that many of them seem to be a few years old, but given the amount of discussion of the nb0 file in these links/threads, I reckon there *must* by now be somewhere/someone(s) who know how to stick a Linux into one of these nb0 files, and fix up the bootloader.

It's late here for me, and I haven't thoroughly read ALL of the stuff at these links, but it doesn't look like a simple, straightforward operation. That said, it *does* look possible (to turn something like a ROM dump, into a nb0 file) but whether you can turn a Linux ISO into one is another question; and it appears that the bootloader is a key element in this thing, not just the OS image file itself...

Anyhow, enough speculation and meandering thoughts, I gotta go to sleep soon. Here's some links to peruse:
http://www.eggheadcafe.com/fohttp://...st25163568.asp

This link shows how to back up, delete, create the nb0 file, and restore the OS on a Toshiba e740 (whatever that is) and the authors speculate the procedure could be used to install Linux onto a PDA: http://www.tweaks2k2.com/e740ROM.htm

I dunno what Opie is, but this page appears to have info and links about Linux on some sort of handheld, and there's mention of nb0 file as well as a bunch of Linux tools for dealing with the image file, upgrading/modifying the bootloader, etc: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.c...6Documentation

A set of tools to manipulate pocketpc roms. specifically written for the xda, but probably not hard to modify for use with other pocketpc platforms: http://www.xs4all.nl/~itsme/projects/xda/romtools.html

Not sure what's going on in these 2 pages, but it looks interesting:
http://www.mobilitysite.com/boards/x...your-axim.html
http://www.mobilitysite.com/boards/x...-flashing.html

Well, maybe this stuff won't help the OP directly, but perhaps someone who's used these sort of tools to deal with other PDA ROM situations, can piece something together to try..

Best of luck with that,
Sasha

Cheers.

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Old 11-29-2009, 11:47 PM   #4
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jhwilliams View Post
I would use UNetbootin to install regular Ubuntu. Then, once installed, if it's overkill for you, you can downgrade (or upgrade depending on how you look at it) to netbook remix with the following command:

Code:
sudo aptitude install ubuntu-netbook-remix
Actually, you can almost certainly install Ubuntu Netbook Remix right from UNetBootin. See if it's listed in the dropdown menu. If it isn't, you probably still can, but it will be more "advanced" and you'll probably instead just want to do the original thing I suggested.
Hi jhwilliams, did you read the previous post via the link?
This netbook, does not have BIOS, only restores with a .nb0 file.
How do you suggest to install?
What file are you gonna place on the SDcard to boot?
An iso file?

Read the post good, I don't think you understand what is going on here...
The SELAR device does not have BIOS, does not accept iso files.
 
Old 11-29-2009, 11:52 PM   #5
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Thank you Thank you Thank You!!!
I did some googling also but did not come up with this.


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Originally Posted by GrapefruiTgirl View Post
Interesting.. I read the old post, and did some Googling, and here's the interesting links I've come up with. I know that many of them seem to be a few years old, but given the amount of discussion of the nb0 file in these links/threads, I reckon there *must* by now be somewhere/someone(s) who know how to stick a Linux into one of these nb0 files, and fix up the bootloader.

It's late here for me, and I haven't thoroughly read ALL of the stuff at these links, but it doesn't look like a simple, straightforward operation. That said, it *does* look possible (to turn something like a ROM dump, into a nb0 file) but whether you can turn a Linux ISO into one is another question; and it appears that the bootloader is a key element in this thing, not just the OS image file itself...

Anyhow, enough speculation and meandering thoughts, I gotta go to sleep soon. Here's some links to peruse:
http://www.eggheadcafe.com/fohttp://...st25163568.asp

This link shows how to back up, delete, create the nb0 file, and restore the OS on a Toshiba e740 (whatever that is) and the authors speculate the procedure could be used to install Linux onto a PDA: http://www.tweaks2k2.com/e740ROM.htm

I dunno what Opie is, but this page appears to have info and links about Linux on some sort of handheld, and there's mention of nb0 file as well as a bunch of Linux tools for dealing with the image file, upgrading/modifying the bootloader, etc: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.c...6Documentation

A set of tools to manipulate pocketpc roms. specifically written for the xda, but probably not hard to modify for use with other pocketpc platforms: http://www.xs4all.nl/~itsme/projects/xda/romtools.html

Not sure what's going on in these 2 pages, but it looks interesting:
http://www.mobilitysite.com/boards/x...your-axim.html
http://www.mobilitysite.com/boards/x...-flashing.html

Well, maybe this stuff won't help the OP directly, but perhaps someone who's used these sort of tools to deal with other PDA ROM situations, can piece something together to try..

Best of luck with that,
Sasha

Cheers.
 
Old 11-29-2009, 11:53 PM   #6
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You're welcome, but don't get too excited yet -- it looks like a bumpy road.

Sasha
 
Old 11-30-2009, 12:01 AM   #7
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hector3rd View Post
Hi jhwilliams, did you read the previous post via the link?
This netbook, does not have BIOS, only restores with a .nb0 file.
How do you suggest to install?
What file are you gonna place on the SDcard to boot?
An iso file?

Read the post good, I don't think you understand what is going on here...
The SELAR device does not have BIOS, does not accept iso files.
Hector,

There appears to be a misunderstanding here about how a computer boots. The ISO9660 is a filesystem standard which is implemented in the kernels of computer operating systems. BIOS do not boot ISO images -- even the GRand Unified Bootloader is not capable of such feats. I assume that your Windows installation comes with the the standard NTLoader. UNetbootin will place an entry into the NTLoader boot menu. When selected, NTLoader will chainload the initrd binary that UNetBootin has generated for it while you were running Windows. That binary in turn will start executing code in an accompanying vmlinuz kernel which will in turn give you an installation environment for a Linux operating system. Whether or not that installer kernel is capable of booting ISOs depends on which one you select. Netboot installers are capable of this task.

I envision, though, that only the Netbook Remix (or similar distros) will have an installation kernel with driver code for exotic (SDCard) storage platforms built-in.

I see that GrapefruiTGirl has perhaps solved your problem in a different manner, so please consider this "advice for the road."

Cheers,
Jameson.

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