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huckleboy 03-17-2006 01:39 PM

Linux distro for old pc?
 
Well, to be fair, I dont subject my old pc (Mat) to the stresses and strains of internet browsing, however, I would like to give him a little more to do than sit around in the loft entertaining the spiders. On my far flung internet travels, I have come across many articles stating that Linux is perfect for the older pc (understandably, he's currently having a little trouble keeping windows 98 going, poor thing), although I thought I should ask a group of people who have a little experience in the field before rushing into things.

Mat, for those interested, has an IntelDX2™ (66MHz) processor, a 405MB hardrive ( of which just 34.6MB are free under Win9, a floppy drive, CD drive, and - about a year ago - he developed a friendly error message telling me "there is a problem with your display setting, or the current settings do not work with your hardware".

So, should I get a linux distro, if so which one would you recommend and is it suitible for a Linux newbie such as mself?

pljvaldez 03-17-2006 01:42 PM

First, what would you like to do with it? There are plenty of distro's that should be able to turn your machine into a firewall/router. Take a look at smoothwall, IPcop, coyote linux, etc.

Now if you want to turn it into an actual desktop machine, I would recommend Damn Small Linux or Debian Pure. Damn Small is based off of Debian, and I believe is only 50MB total. Or for Debian, you should be able to do a minimal netinstall of Debian (which will leave you with a working command prompt) and then add x and a lightweight window manager.

huckleboy 03-17-2006 01:49 PM

Thanks! While I take the tests...

I'm afraid that I neglected to mention that Mat has no internet capabilities, so I intend to use him for wordprocessing etc. Also, I think that I'll probably need a distro capable of being installed from floppy, although he may (just may...) boot up from a live cd (I've never tryed this though)

pljvaldez 03-17-2006 01:53 PM

I would try Damn Small which installs from a live CD. Otherwise, you may be able to use a floppy to boot a minimal system and then install from the CD. I'm pretty sure you can do this with Debian.

http://www.debian.org/releases/3.1/i386/

huckleboy 03-17-2006 02:14 PM

Ok, I've been told by zegan studios Suse, and by eekdoc a whole load (of which Beatrix looks promising), although your suggestion of Debian actually looks the best, seeing as I only have the 12Mb RAM.

P.S. All I can find in debian is this about booting from floppy. (So far... I will keep looking)

P.P.S. Sorry, that's exactly what you said!

pljvaldez 03-17-2006 03:16 PM

Actually, Debian may not work on only 12MB. I think the installer requires 20MB minimum to install, but you can give it a shot. I'd recommend trying Damn Small or Beatrix if it's also a minimalist distro (never really looked into it). Suse will be way too bloated for you.

pljvaldez 03-17-2006 03:20 PM

It looks like you may struggle finding a new distro with enough ram to run a gui. But I would check out this link:

http://www.linuxlinks.com/Distributi...Distributions/

And check to see if any of these even work for you. Damn Small's homepage says it needs 16MB to run...

huckleboy 03-17-2006 06:00 PM

So does windows 98, and Mat runs ok with that - although an OS that ran under 12 would be a major improvement! Also, I do only have the 405MB HD.

huckleboy 03-18-2006 12:52 PM

AAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

Ok I've been to loads of sites, and the only distros I can find that run in 12mb are those who run straight from a floppy.

Does anyone know of a distro that actually runs in under 12 (or near enough)?

muddywaters 03-19-2006 09:08 AM

These small distros you are looking at are quick downloads. Testing them out will only cost a few cd's and a bit of time. If they can't run it's a learning experience.
Check them for 'lowmem' installs or what damnsmalllinux calls a 'frugal install'. I think the big obstacle will be running a GUI. Text mode should be possible.
Another possibility would be finding a release that matches mat's vintage, though I can't tell you if anyone is offering these for download.
Edit: Forgot to add linux uses ram differenly than ms products. Running a GUI in an old version of windows does not necessarily mean that same machine can do it in linux.

huckleboy 03-19-2006 01:28 PM

Oooooooo I see. I think I'll wait untill I get some CD-RWs before I start burning cds (I've got only 1 CD-R left lol). When I do get them, though, I'll try DSL's live cd and preogress from there.

Thanks All, I'll keep you posted - and curse you if mat doesn't survive the transition from Win to Lin, lol!

muddywaters 03-21-2006 11:10 AM

One thing that hasn't been mentioned in this thread, make sure you have a way to reinstall windows if all else fails. I'm convinced some form of linux can run on this thing but you may not be happy with the result.

huckleboy 03-22-2006 04:23 PM

Hmmmmmmm... I don't have the win98 install disk anymore - however, Mat is destined for the dustbin if I don't find something to do with him...


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