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Old 09-24-2008, 06:56 AM   #1
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Is there ANY way for a proper shut down if USB has crashed with a mounted USB drive?


Hello,
on my motherboard (ga-ma69g-s3h) USB disappears from time to time. (The BIOS is up-to-date and no one else reports problems like this, so I think its a hardware failure). But thats not the big problem, I do a restart (luckily my keyboard is still PS/2) and everything is working fine again.
The problem starts if this happens while an USB drive is mounted. Then (obvious) no unwritten data can be wrote back. This results in:
a) I can not unmount the drive
b) Running sync does hang completely. (Need to switch to an other tty and log in there a second time)
c) Running shutdown 0 as root does not shut down. CTRL+ALT+DEL does not do so either.
d) Processes which were using the drive cant be killed, not even with -9 as root.
e) No warnings or errors were reported in dmesg.
f) I can not unmount / or /home as they are reported to be busy (by the hanging applications above...)
g) I tried the various mount options like remount read-only on the normal partitions, but this did not help either.

In the end the ONLY thing I can do is pressing the reset button on my PC. Resulting in potential loss of data on my normal drives as they were not unmounted. It is very annoying to loose data /home just because the Linux is in a "I have to write the files on the non existing USB drive even if it takes to the end of all time" mode.

Is there any way I can tell the System "Its ok to loose the data on the USB drive, but please sync all internal hard disks and shut down"?

My system is Debian running with a 2.6.24 kernel.

Last edited by TTL_2; 09-24-2008 at 06:59 AM.
 
Old 09-24-2008, 08:39 AM   #2
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hi

some suggestions

1) post the contents of the section of your /etc/inittab pls
eg
# What to do when CTRL-ALT-DEL is pressed.
ca:12345:ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -t1 -a -r now

2) I am assuming you have normal ide or sata drives for /?

3) I would have thought it was normal not to be able to unmount / in a working system?

4) Can you post your /etc/fstab if usb is mentioned and if not mentioned what folder is it mount to pls?

5) Is usb drive a usb stick or an external usb hard drive? Who has write powers? just one user or all users?

6) At a wild guess, it may be a power supply that is failing. There is a web page I can't remember where at this stage where you can calculate with all hardware on...what your min power is...if you are close it may be that?

7) Other than warm reboot it, can you issue a root command reboot?

cheerio
 
Old 09-24-2008, 09:04 AM   #3
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Originally Posted by TTL_2 View Post
Is there any way I can tell the System "Its ok to loose the data on the USB drive, but please sync all internal hard disks and shut down"?
Yes. It is called "Magic System Request".

It is triggered by Alt + PrintScreen/SysReq + 'another key' keys combination.
To use it, you need an enabled kernel (CONFIG_MAGIC_SYSRQ directive).
If you have a file called '/proc/sys/kernel/sysrq' then your kernel have it.
To enable the magic functions, you need a "1" in that file (echo "1" > /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq).

The 'another key' I mentioned above is one single letter, each one has a specific function. For instance, the 'm' key will dump the memory to console; 't' will dump the task list to console; 'b' will reboot your system without any sync or umounting; 'h' will print all options.

To sync all filesystems use 's' (Alt+SysReq+s).
 
  


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