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Old 06-13-2005, 09:01 AM   #1
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Is it worth the extra $ for a 64bit processor?


At current, I am using an AMD sempron 2200+ processor running at just over 1500 mhz. This seems to be ample power for my current needs, but I am looking at making a small home server later this year. From what I know, at the moment, most applications have not been designed to take power of the 64bit architectures, so will not run as well as they could. So is there any proof in spending the extra money to be "futureproof", because surely, the cost of 64 bit processors will eventually drop.

I would like to know what kind of performance differences you are getting on different distro's (and o/s's if possible), and which, in your opinions, is the best make/model to go with at this particular moment in time.

Thanks, Tom.
 
Old 06-14-2005, 05:58 PM   #2
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I think that they are worth the money and I'm getting one for my next computer, but for a small home server I don't see the point. with 64bit cpus you see a boost is stuff like video encoding and other very math intensive stuff but for a small file/mail/print server you won't see that big a jump. if anything get the 64 bit for your desktop and demote you current bot to the server. as far as the applications this is less trur with linux then windows 'cause just about anything can be recompiled to take advantage of 64 bit so there are lots of 64bit apps just about anything you'd want
 
Old 06-15-2005, 12:54 PM   #3
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Originally posted by johnson_steve
I think that they are worth the money and I'm getting one for my next computer, but for a small home server I don't see the point. with 64bit cpus you see a boost is stuff like video encoding and other very math intensive stuff but for a small file/mail/print server you won't see that big a jump. if anything get the 64 bit for your desktop and demote you current bot to the server. as far as the applications this is less trur with linux then windows 'cause just about anything can be recompiled to take advantage of 64 bit so there are lots of 64bit apps just about anything you'd want
if you were like running dual xeons 3.2s, you would probably want the EMT64 versions, but a little home server, you wouldn't see a boost in performance (noticable). Am I correct?
 
Old 06-15-2005, 01:45 PM   #4
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Eventually 64 bit will the standard, but we're not there yet. If your current rig is adequate for your needs, then I'm not sure there would be any significant gains to be had by going for a 64 bit CPU right now. Personally, what I typically do is to hold off on buying new hardware until I can honestly identify specific problems that would be solved or eliminated by upgrading to a newer/better component. Way back when I was on my original Pentium 133Mz, with 16Mg of RAM and a 1.6G drive, I eventually got to the point where the machine was simply too underpowered for me to do my work. The apps ran slow, I was constantly deleting files because I was constantly in danger of running out of space, etc, etc. In that situation, upgrading to P3 with 128Mg and 14G drive made a huge, huge difference, and so it was worth it. In contrast, my rig now is running a P4 @ 2.4Gz, and although there are faster CPU's out there, for the time being I don't really see that spending money on one would produce any meaningful difference for me.

Of course, you are free to spend the cash for whatever equipment you choose, but at least in the "my 2 cents dept" I don't know that there would be any specific gains to be had by doing to 64 bit today. In a year or so, the situation could be different, but overall I'd wait until I had a specific justification for going 64 bit before I laid out any cash. Good luck with it either way -- J.W.
 
Old 06-15-2005, 02:40 PM   #5
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I have a 64 bit pc. If you use the AMD version it is not much more expensive. The proformance boost was impressive for me, I went from a xp 1800+ to a socket 939 3000+, as far as a home server goes, I wouldnt spend the money on it, I use 2x PIII 733mhz and 256 mb ram and it works just fine as a server running SUSE 9.2. If you play games I would recomend the 64 bit one because it is faster even in a 32 bit enviroment.

Joe
 
Old 06-15-2005, 03:13 PM   #6
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oh yeah, if you do get one get the Athalon64 it has lots of other cool performace featureslike a built in memory controller and no front side bus!
 
Old 06-15-2005, 04:49 PM   #7
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How does it work without any fsb???
 
Old 06-15-2005, 04:56 PM   #8
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.... It has a FSB, mine is 2000MHz

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...?EdpNo=1170066

Should show you about the amd 64
 
Old 06-15-2005, 09:39 PM   #9
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nope 2000Mhz is the Hyper transport bus unlike a traditional fsb it's full duplex and can move 3.2GB/s of data in each direction simultaneously and doesn't have to handle communication with the ram. many retailers list this speed as a fsb because most chips have one and it's the closest thing to a fsb on this chip.

http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NTI0
 
  


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