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Old 11-07-2009, 08:49 AM   #1
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Is it too late...has my hard drive failed?


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My current setup:
IDE0 Master 80GB OpenSuSE 11.0
IDE0 Slave 200GB WinXP
IDE1 Master DVD-Writer
IDE1 Slave CD/DVD-Reader
SCSI Adapter - IDE2 Master 250GB
IDE2 Slave empty
IDE3 Master empty
IDE3 Slave empty

I recently added a USB Hub (7 ports) because 5 out of my 6 were
damaged. The hub installed fine (or so I thought)...I shutdown
the machine after the install but when I went back the next day I got
the error message "No Hard Disk Found".

I unplugged the hub but still it had no effect...same result No HD
...after several reboots (with the hub attached and unattached) the system booted just fine...
ie, the bootloader came up asking me linux or xp.

Yesterday while online I was watching some streaming video and FireFox
froze...FF would not close, I tried to kill the program via the process
manager, it would not open...I tried to logoff and reboot...nothing...
I was left with a hard reset and once again after reset came the "No
Hard Disk Found" error message.

I am not hearing any sounds from the 80GB...but it seems the drive
is erractic...currently I have no access to linux or xp. I've had
this drive for 4 yrs...could it be failing or do I have a corrupt
file system?

The BIOS shows my Slave as the Master and no Slave present???
The BIOS is set to Auto detect.
Please advise and thanks.
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Old 11-07-2009, 09:23 AM   #2
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If the BIOS is not detecting th HD, I would tend to lean towards a bad HD or cable. Unless of course you altered the jumpers.
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Old 11-07-2009, 09:28 AM   #3
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Hi,

The first thing if possible is to backup but that may require the hdd be moved to another system. If at all possible.

If you can not do this then You will need to perform some diagnostics on the drive. You could get the hdd manufacture tools or try a 'LiveCD'. I like 'SystemRescueCD' and 'UBCD' for system diagnostic tools.

If you have another system that you could get the LiveCD then I would download & burn. Plus you could move the hdd in question to that machine as a Slave then look at the logs to see if there are messages that can lead to solutions. Otherwise just use the LiveCD to boot the system and then mount the filesystem if possible to look at the logs. You will perform the diagnostics on the hdd unmounted.



The above links and others can be found at 'Slackware-Links'. More than just SlackwareŽ links!
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Old 11-07-2009, 11:00 PM   #4
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If the bios is not seeing the drive im pretty sure that the drive is dead. You can try and get it running by putting it in another computer but still then it may not work if its dead. I would hope that you could get it working again at least once so you can get the data off of it.
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Old 11-10-2009, 09:49 AM   #5
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to exvor, onebuck and clayb226

exvor - once in every 5 boots the machine will start normally...I backup my home directory every two weeks so I shouldnt lose to much...thanks!

onebuck - I have SystemRescueCD and will try that (unmounted)...never heard of UBCD but will Google and give it a shot....thanks!

clayb226 - I havent changed anything internally...but have noticed that whether I have the machine powered up 5 mins or 50mins a single click from the HD will halt/stall/freeze the box...backups are done (home directory at least) every two weeks....CloneZilla has been used several times...looking into buying an exact drive...maybe CZ will restore correctly????....thanks!

Thanks to all....love my linux!
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Old 11-10-2009, 01:44 PM   #6
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Hi,

Just click on the link(s) I provided.

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Old 11-10-2009, 02:02 PM   #7
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I think its worse! i think your motherboard is gone!
its not a coincidence that both your USB ports and your harddrive failed.
i think the motherboard may have some I/O bus problems.
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Old 11-10-2009, 04:48 PM   #8
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To test to see if it is the drive or something internal that is causing the problem you could grab smartmontools and run a helth check on the drive. Almost every drive today includes smart.
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Old 11-10-2009, 04:51 PM   #9
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To test to see if it is the drive or something internal that is causing the problem you could grab smartmontools and run a helth check on the drive. Almost every drive today includes smart.
not reliable if the IDE or SATA controller is failing.
the best is to try it on another computer.
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Old 11-27-2009, 08:53 AM   #10
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Which hard drive is failing and how to tell

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...failed-767521/

I have four hard drives

IDE0=master-WinXP 200GB
IDE0=slave-Suse Linux 80GB 5-10yrs old (not sure, has been used is several systems)

IDE1=master-dvdrw
IDE1=slave-cdrw

IDE2=master-backup 250GB
IDE2=slave-33GB from an old machine

I am not very good at the cli...I have tried the suggestions from the above url but no joy...actually I stink which is probably why I could'nt get the programs listed above to work.....I can login to the dual-boot with the cover of my machine off and the system will act normal for about 50mins...cover on 10-15mins...then I'll hear a single click and linux will freeze.
The 80GB linux hd is real hot to the touch...so I'm thinking thats the hd failing but how do I know for sure????

Plus the age of the drive.
I have found an identical drive at newegg.com but again should I buy it?
Please advise and thanks so much in advance!!!

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Old 11-27-2009, 09:43 AM   #11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cbjhawks View Post
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...failed-767521/

I have four hard drives

IDE0=master-WinXP 200GB
IDE0=slave-Suse Linux 80GB 5-10yrs old (not sure, has been used is several systems)

IDE1=master-dvdrw
IDE1=slave-cdrw

IDE2=master-backup 250GB
IDE2=slave-33GB from an old machine

I am not very good at the cli...I have tried the suggestions from the above url but no joy...actually I stink which is probably why I could'nt get the programs listed above to work.....I can login to the dual-boot with the cover of my machine off and the system will act normal for about 50mins...cover on 10-15mins...then I'll hear a single click and linux will freeze.
The 80GB linux hd is real hot to the touch...so I'm thinking thats the hd failing but how do I know for sure????

Plus the age of the drive.
I have found an identical drive at newegg.com but again should I buy it?
Please advise and thanks so much in advance!!!
use smartctl to check your disk health
it is part of the smartmontools package.

smartctl -h for options


Code:
smartctl  -H -l selftest /dev/hda1

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Old 11-28-2009, 08:40 AM   #12
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thanks centosboy for your reply...

will try later today and post results...thanks for your time!
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Old 11-28-2009, 10:19 AM   #13
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Hi,

Why start a new thread? What was to result of the diagnostics performed? Try either of the LiveCDs suggested?

What about the PSU?
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Old 12-01-2009, 03:02 PM   #14
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I have merged the two closely-related threads.
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Old 12-01-2009, 05:44 PM   #15
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use smartctl to check your disk health
it is part of the smartmontools package.

smartctl -h for options

This is what I would do. First check your hard disk with the smartctl tool:
# smartctl -t short /dev/*
# smartctl -l selftest /dev/*
# smartctl -a /dev/*

Let us know the output.
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