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Old 05-02-2007, 11:35 PM   #1
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Install Beryl on Ati laptop?


Has anyone managed to get Beryl working on a laptop with an integrated ati card? I have one with a card that says it's X1100 but I saw somewhere X200 radeon mobility. It's very confusing I know but I really just want stable xgl for working with 3D packages (Blender, Maya etc...). Since I've switched to linux about two months ago I've had nothing but problems with my graphics. If someone knows a fix please can you post a step by step guide of some sort. ThanX in advance.
 
Old 05-03-2007, 03:09 PM   #2
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yes, i have installed beryl with an ati Mobility 200 ,integrated.
However, you mentioned Maya and Blender. Are you wanting beryl for the fancy "wobbly windows", or are you just wanting to use Maya and Blender? My advice would be this: If you want the 3D fancy bells and whistles, we'll help you. If you are just wanting to run Blender, Maya and the like, then you don't need xgl. Xgl is not required for Blender and Maya! Only for the fancy 3D bells and whistles! In all honesty, xgl on my computer adds a lot of overhead, which is something you don't want for cpu intensive 3d graphic work.
What we could do, if you want both, is this:
Setup Xgl with beryl for said fancy effects
Setup a login session that does NOT use beryl and xgl for when you want to work in Maya and Blender

let me know!

--drew

ps to get maya and blender working, you probably just need the right 3d drivers, not xgl :-D
 
Old 05-03-2007, 05:09 PM   #3
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ThanX

Well the right 3D drivers...that's kind of what I meant. Sorry about not being clear enough but overall graphics performance-wise Maya, Shake and just anything 3D on my machine suX under LinuX. I get random artifacts, VERY sluggish speeds and this weird drippy fade to white effect when I turn off the machine (looks kind of like film {close up} burning). That's scary but the machine is only two months old. Any input as to how I could get this working ( P.S. why would they label the lappy 1100 when it's a 200 M?).

##EDIT----> Oh and having pretty themes to work with would be nice too

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Old 05-03-2007, 08:00 PM   #4
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haha themes are easy to work with: go to http://www.kde-look.org
As for drivers, they can be a different story.
You're running Kubuntu Feisty, correct?
There should be some kind of "Restricted Drivers" manager: I haven't run (k)ubuntu for more than a week in quite a long time, so I don't know exactly where to look. Try under the system menu.
Once there, see if there is a suitable option for a proprietary ati driver (fglrx). If there is, go ahead and enable it! Reboot, and run this code:
Code:
fgl_glxgears
fglrxinfo
if the first command gives you a spinning cube with rotating gears on it, and the second gives you information that mentions OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc., then your 3d performance is then maxed out! Try running your design apps again. :-D Then we can talk about fancy wobbly windows if you want!

If the test I gave you fails, then please post any output the commands give you, and we'll troubleshoot from there.
:-D
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Old 05-04-2007, 02:43 AM   #5
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K

Well I frequent KDE-look pretty often but I would like to "skin" KDE. I since found a pretty helpful guide for it but as far as the drivers are concerned KDE is silly about that. I installed fglrX through adept but then I started having even more problems. Such as not being able to up the screen resolution, windows not redrawing properly and my screen looking like someone took a cheese grater to my lcd ribbon. KDE sometimes will not allow me to change the driver through the system settings panel in admin mode so I had to go in and swap Xorg.config for an older backup copy. I will do what you said and test my gfX. I'll be back with more in the morning.

P.S.-Your sig is very clever. I noticed it a while back and couldn't help but giggle:-}

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Old 05-04-2007, 04:03 PM   #6
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The first bit of Kode yields this:
"Using GLX_SGIX_pbuffer
Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
Error: couldn't get an RGBA, Double-buffered visual"

Then the second:
"Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual!"
 
Old 05-04-2007, 05:02 PM   #7
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hmm. ok, please post your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, if you don't mind...

-drew
 
Old 05-04-2007, 05:54 PM   #8
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Here it is ( I omitted wacom stuff to save space and your scrolling):
# /etc/X11/xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file)
#
# This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using
# values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the xorg.conf(5) manual page.
# (Type "man xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.)
#
# This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only*
# if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg
# package.
#
# If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated
# again, run the following command:
# sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg

Section "Files"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi"
# path to defoma fonts
FontPath "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load "i2c"
Load "bitmap"
Load "ddc"
Load "dri"
Load "extmod"
Load "freetype"
Load "glx"
Load "int10"
Load "vbe"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Generic Keyboard"
Driver "kbd"
Option "CoreKeyboard"
Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
Option "XkbLayout" "us"
Option "XkbOptions" "lv3:ralt_switch"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Configured Mouse"
Driver "mouse"
Option "CorePointer"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Synaptics Touchpad"
Driver "synaptics"
Option "SendCoreEvents" "true"
Option "Device" "/dev/psaux"
Option "Protocol" "auto-dev"
Option "HorizScrollDelta" "0"
EndSection

Blah....

Section "Device"
Identifier "ATI Technologies Inc RS485 [Radeon Xpress 1100 IGP]"
Driver "ati"
BusID "PCI:1:5:0"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Generic Monitor"
Option "DPMS"
HorizSync 28-64
VertRefresh 43-60
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Default Screen"
Device "ATI Technologies Inc RS485 [Radeon Xpress 1100 IGP]"
Monitor "Generic Monitor"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Depth 1
Modes "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1280x800" "1280x768" "1200x800" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 4
Modes "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1280x800" "1280x768" "1200x800" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 8
Modes "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1280x800" "1280x768" "1200x800" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 15
Modes "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1280x800" "1280x768" "1200x800" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1280x800" "1280x768" "1200x800" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1280x800" "1280x768" "1200x800" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Default Layout"
Screen "Default Screen"
InputDevice "Generic Keyboard"
InputDevice "Configured Mouse"
InputDevice "stylus" "SendCoreEvents"
InputDevice "cursor" "SendCoreEvents"
InputDevice "eraser" "SendCoreEvents"
InputDevice "Synaptics Touchpad"
EndSection

Section "DRI"
Mode 0666
EndSection
 
Old 05-04-2007, 11:53 PM   #9
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well I'm not sure what to tell you from this point. If I were you, I would try posting in the ubuntu forums (they're really helpful) and they may be able to help you from then on. Make sure to include a link to this post so that they will be able to help you...
Dang it I hate it when I can't solve a problem! I'm sure someone will be able to help you though...
:-(
sorry
--drew
 
Old 05-05-2007, 12:20 AM   #10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by drewbug01
yes, i have installed beryl with an ati Mobility 200 ,integrated.
However, you mentioned Maya and Blender. Are you wanting beryl for the fancy "wobbly windows", or are you just wanting to use Maya and Blender? My advice would be this: If you want the 3D fancy bells and whistles, we'll help you. If you are just wanting to run Blender, Maya and the like, then you don't need xgl. Xgl is not required for Blender and Maya! Only for the fancy 3D bells and whistles! In all honesty, xgl on my computer adds a lot of overhead, which is something you don't want for cpu intensive 3d graphic work.
What we could do, if you want both, is this:
Setup Xgl with beryl for said fancy effects
Setup a login session that does NOT use beryl and xgl for when you want to work in Maya and Blender

let me know!

--drew

ps to get maya and blender working, you probably just need the right 3d drivers, not xgl :-D

This may be quite true on a laptop where you don't have the pleasure of having a dedicated Graphics Processing Unit(s) (GPU, how ever i don't think it is a problem for those of us on desktops with dedicated CPUS and at least two gigs of memory on the mother board.

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Old 05-07-2007, 03:45 PM   #11
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That doesnt help very much (stating the obvious). Anyway I got Beryl working on my d-top (cube flip burn and all) but does any body have a clue how I can get it to work on my lappy? I've heard of a couple of people getting it to work on their XPress 200M but I cant get it to work.

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Old 11-17-2007, 10:14 PM   #12
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ok ok

you need to run fglrxinfo as a regular user NOT ROOT
 
  


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