LinuxQuestions.org
Visit Jeremy's Blog.
Home Forums Tutorials Articles Register
Go Back   LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > Linux Forums > Linux - Hardware
User Name
Password
Linux - Hardware This forum is for Hardware issues.
Having trouble installing a piece of hardware? Want to know if that peripheral is compatible with Linux?

Notices


Reply
  Search this Thread
Old 05-06-2004, 04:24 AM   #46
mir_sheely
Member
 
Registered: Mar 2004
Location: KARACHI
Distribution: WIN 98, WIN XP Pro, Mandrake 9.2
Posts: 166

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 30

Thank you very much

You told me about the Videos in Linux. The most important thing that u told me is that, the XMMS is also capable of playing videos. I did not know about that. I have searched at "newrpms" and other three but they were not satisfied I mean that I am not satisfy from that. Yesturday I tried
http://ftp.freshrpms.net/pub/freshrpms/redhat/9
and it opened. There is alot of RPMs are present and they are good. Thank u alot for ur guidence. I am downloading the plugins for XMMS as well as ALSA sound driver for RH9 (The real issue. As i still not installed ALSA in Redhat 9). If I face some problem, I will tell you.
The another most important thing as that how can I enable my VGA card's 3D Acceleration? I have disscused it at Linux-Games. Where can I find the RPM package of DRI? well, I will search it on Google but your guidence is also needed. My VGA card is SiS 740.

Again thank u very very much.
 
Old 05-06-2004, 05:06 AM   #47
motub
Senior Member
 
Registered: Sep 2003
Location: The Netherlands
Distribution: Gentoo (main); SuSE 9.3 (fallback)
Posts: 1,607

Rep: Reputation: 46
The packages containing DRI should be on your RedHat CDs, and may well have been installed already. Can you post the contents of the file /etc/X11/XF86Config-4? If that file does not contain any data, then try /etc/X11/XF86Config, or /etc/XF86Config(-4). I don't offhand know where RedHat keeps its XFree86 configuration.

You may be using the wrong driver (one which does not include 3D acceleration support, such as the VESA driver). If that turns out not to be the case, we'll check further possiblilities.

In the meantime, you might also want to read the DRI user's guide at XFree86.org.
 
Old 05-06-2004, 05:53 AM   #48
mir_sheely
Member
 
Registered: Mar 2004
Location: KARACHI
Distribution: WIN 98, WIN XP Pro, Mandrake 9.2
Posts: 166

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 30
Thanks alot

I will post you the contents of file later becouse now I am in Windows. (My current ISP doesn,t support Linux).
You are apsolutely right that I am using VESA driver becouse Linux hasn't driver for Sis 740. But what do u mean by

"If that turns out not to be the case, we'll check further possiblilities."

I don't understand. Pardon me please.
Thanks
 
Old 05-06-2004, 06:02 AM   #49
motub
Senior Member
 
Registered: Sep 2003
Location: The Netherlands
Distribution: Gentoo (main); SuSE 9.3 (fallback)
Posts: 1,607

Rep: Reputation: 46
You can post the contents of the file now, while you are in Windows, if your Linux partitions are formatted as ext2 or ext3. Download the free Explore2fs file manager. All you have to do is extract the .zip file and open the app, and you can view the linux partitions. Select the file in question, right-click and choose "View file" and it will open in Notepad. You can then copy and paste the contents into a post.

Linux does in fact have a driver for the SiS 740, but you are apparently not using it. What I meant was that if you were using the sis driver, but DRI wasn't working, we'd have to figure out why. But since you're using VESA, the first thing to do would be to switch to the sis driver.

The easiest way to do so would be to open the RedHat X Configuration tool (I hope you know where it is, because I don't ) and change your video card from vesa to sis. Do a test to see if it works. If so, save the settings, and close all your programs, then log out or reboot to initialize the new driver.

If it doesn't work, then post the XFree config file and we'll try to see what's wrong.
 
Old 05-06-2004, 06:26 AM   #50
mir_sheely
Member
 
Registered: Mar 2004
Location: KARACHI
Distribution: WIN 98, WIN XP Pro, Mandrake 9.2
Posts: 166

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 30
The Linux only contain drivers till SIS 630 and not any further. Does it still be right to apply SIS 640 Driver on it? Thank you very much for telling about linux partitions.
 
Old 05-06-2004, 06:45 AM   #51
mir_sheely
Member
 
Registered: Mar 2004
Location: KARACHI
Distribution: WIN 98, WIN XP Pro, Mandrake 9.2
Posts: 166

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 30
The content of file "etc/X11/XF86config" is as follows

# XFree86 4 configuration created by pyxf86config

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Default Layout"
Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
InputDevice "DevInputMice" "AlwaysCore"
EndSection

Section "Files"
# RgbPath is the location of the RGB database. Note, this is the name of the
# file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db"). There is normally
# no need to change the default.

# Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together)
# By default, Red Hat 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of
# the X server to render fonts.

RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
FontPath "unix/:7100"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load "dbe"
Load "extmod"
Load "fbdevhw"
Load "glx"
Load "record"
Load "freetype"
Load "type1"
Load "dri"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
# Specify which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1))
# Option "Xleds" "1 2 3"

# To disable the XKEYBOARD extension, uncomment XkbDisable.
# Option "XkbDisable"

# To customise the XKB settings to suit your keyboard, modify the
# lines below (which are the defaults). For example, for a non-U.S.
# keyboard, you will probably want to use:
# Option "XkbModel" "pc102"
# If you have a US Microsoft Natural keyboard, you can use:
# Option "XkbModel" "microsoft"
#
# Then to change the language, change the Layout setting.
# For example, a german layout can be obtained with:
# Option "XkbLayout" "de"
# or:
# Option "XkbLayout" "de"
# Option "XkbVariant" "nodeadkeys"
#
# If you'd like to switch the positions of your capslock and
# control keys, use:
# Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:swapcaps"
# Or if you just want both to be control, use:
# Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:nocaps"
#
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "keyboard"
Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"
Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
Option "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Mouse0"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2"
Option "Device" "/dev/psaux"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "no"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
# If the normal CorePointer mouse is not a USB mouse then
# this input device can be used in AlwaysCore mode to let you
# also use USB mice at the same time.
Identifier "DevInputMice"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "no"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName "500G"
DisplaySize 280 210
HorizSync 30.0 - 54.0
VertRefresh 50.0 - 120.0
Option "dpms"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "Videocard0"
Driver "vesa"
VendorName "Videocard vendor"
BoardName "VESA driver (generic)"
VideoRam 16384
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Videocard0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "DRI"
Group 0
Mode 0666
EndSection


Hope it will give you some guess.
Thanks
 
Old 05-06-2004, 07:14 AM   #52
motub
Senior Member
 
Registered: Sep 2003
Location: The Netherlands
Distribution: Gentoo (main); SuSE 9.3 (fallback)
Posts: 1,607

Rep: Reputation: 46
Ah, right... you're using RedHat 8, aren't you? Sorry, thought you were using RH 9 for some reason-- hope those RPMs you've been downloading work properly for you. They may not, if they're for RedHat 9, which has some capabilities that RedHat 8 does not support. If the RPMs you've got now don't install or don't work,go back to the site you linked to above, use the "Parent Directory" link to go up a level, and then link back down to the RedHat 8.0 files and download those instead.

In any case, you seem to need to update your kernel to something a bit more current than 2.4.18 in order to get the kernel drivers for your chipset. Anything beyond 2.4.20 will hopefully include such support, as the RedHat 8 stock kernels seem to stop at 2.4.20 revision 31. However, the Planet CCRMA kernels for RedHat 8 go beyond this and should support your card. Otherwise you'd have to upgrade with RH 9 or Fedora or something else entirely-- or compile your own vanilla kernel, which I don't think you want to do.

When a card like yours, which normally should be supported, defaults to VESA, it generally indicates that your particular kernel does not contain support for the card (because that support was released after the kernel that you are using).

Now I know you by now, and I know you are going to ask me where to get an updated kernel, right ?

I'm ready for you .

http://atrpms.net/dist/rh80/kernel-redhat/

http://atrpms.net/dist/rh80/kernel/

http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat....i586.rpm.html

http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat...thlon.rpm.html

http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat...athlon.rpm.htm

All of these are fully compiled kernels that should replace your current kernel when installed (or possibly install next to them, allowing you to use both, but I would not bet on that).

If you want to compile your own kernel (hey, we've all got to learn how to do that at some point), then get the kernel-source package, which, after installation can be compiled and installed manually by you.

Good luck.

Oh, and your XF86Config looks fine, the problem is that you can't use the drivers with 3D acceleration, because you don't have the drivers with 3D acceleration for your card in the kernel.
 
Old 05-06-2004, 07:24 AM   #53
mir_sheely
Member
 
Registered: Mar 2004
Location: KARACHI
Distribution: WIN 98, WIN XP Pro, Mandrake 9.2
Posts: 166

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 30
You are miss guided
I am using Redhat 9.0. From where u guessed that I am using RH 8.0? I have left it 2 weeks ago. I told u at the same time. Does there any tool to differenciat b/w RH 8 and RH 9?
kindly please resend these links with update for RH 9.0
I am sure and it is labeled on the Installation CDs that it is RH 9.0.
Thanks
 
Old 05-06-2004, 08:46 AM   #54
motub
Senior Member
 
Registered: Sep 2003
Location: The Netherlands
Distribution: Gentoo (main); SuSE 9.3 (fallback)
Posts: 1,607

Rep: Reputation: 46
Sorry, I got confused somewhere in the middle of this whole thing, and just now I went back to the beginning of the thread where you said you were using RH8, and didn't read the whole thing through again. My apologies.

But....You know, I don't mind helping you, but is it so difficult, if you get a link which reads

http://atrpms.net/dist/rh8.0/kernel

to guess that the link for RedHat 9 might be

http://atrpms.net/dist/rh9/kernel/ ??? or to

put

http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat....i586.rpm.html

in your browser's address bar and look at the page, where you might notice that the RPM I linked to is part of the System Environment/Kernel group, which is a link on that page.... and the page has a "Search" link, too.

I swear, I'm about to come over there and cut up your food for you. Geez. But fine, here are a bunch of adjusted links because I'm really waaaaay too nice.

Vanilla kernel source (not patched or tweaked for RedHat, you have to compile it): http://www.kernel.org/

What seems to be the last revision of the stock RH9 kernel, which hopefully includes support for the later SiS chipsets: http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat....i386.rpm.html

CCRMA patched kernels (the ll stands for "low latency", which should make the machine faster, and the kernel version should include support for the SiS 740):
http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat...thlon.rpm.html

This is the CCRMA low latency 2.4.26 kernel for the Athlon CPU (which I assume you have one of, since the 740 seems to be an Athlon chipset):
http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat...thlon.rpm.html

There is also a standalone open source driver for the SiS 740 chipset. It is said not to compile too well under RedHat, but if you don't want to upgrade your entire kernel, you can try installing these drivers instead.

You will probably need the kernel-source for your currently-running kernel, which I am assuming (I'm not going back through this thread again) is 2.4.20-8, which seems to be the standard RH 9 kernel installed with the distro.

http://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/lin....20-8.i386.rpm

You can then get the drivers from http://www.winischhofer.net/linuxsisvga.shtml and follow the instructions on the site to compile and install them.

You really should consider switching to Fedora if you like RedHat, since it's only going to get harder for you to find the packages you need/want as what support remains for RedHat 9 dwindles away.
 
Old 05-07-2004, 05:49 AM   #55
mir_sheely
Member
 
Registered: Mar 2004
Location: KARACHI
Distribution: WIN 98, WIN XP Pro, Mandrake 9.2
Posts: 166

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 30
Thank u very much
You are right that I am using the Redhat Default Kernel i-e 4.20-8 and the kernel source is to much large to download. (approximately 37MB). Will it solve my problem(s). And secondly my ISP is to slow that I will find the file in more than 5 days. (I only brows net 2 to 3 hours and the downloading speed is 2 to 3.5 kb/s).
The Most Important problem is that as u know that I downloaded several RPMs but when I double click on them the system doesn,t respond I mean it doesn't do any thing. Take the example of alsa-driver. Same problem is going with xmms AVI plug-ins and glib RPMs. what is the problem?
Is it kernel problem?
 
Old 05-07-2004, 06:05 AM   #56
mir_sheely
Member
 
Registered: Mar 2004
Location: KARACHI
Distribution: WIN 98, WIN XP Pro, Mandrake 9.2
Posts: 166

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 30
AS far as switching to new OS is concerned, The fedora is not not available in my region I mean the market nearest to me, but the MANDRAKE 10 is available. How is that? is it better than rh 9.0? tell me about that but don't forget to tell me about my previous problems.
Thanks alot
 
Old 05-07-2004, 06:12 AM   #57
motub
Senior Member
 
Registered: Sep 2003
Location: The Netherlands
Distribution: Gentoo (main); SuSE 9.3 (fallback)
Posts: 1,607

Rep: Reputation: 46
No, the fact that double-clicking the RPMs doesn't work is not related to the kernel. Have you tried right-clicking them and choosing "Open With"? This should give you the option of "Software Installer". It's possible that RPM (the software installation program) is broken, not integrated with your file manager, or the root access password request dialog is not appearing as it should (look behind your file manager window; maybe it's there).

If nothing works, you'll have to install the RPMs manually from the command line. Read man rpm for further details of how to use this command, but in general you will want to open a terminal, cd to the folder where the RPMs are saved, and then use rpm -iVh <packagename>. The terminal will have to have root access (normally gained by use of the su or su - command, but you could conceivably log out and in as root, though this is not recommended). Only root may install software.

As for your slow connection: in future, you should let people know this sooner, because if people don't know, asking for the simplest links the way you have been doing makes you look very needy and unable to do even the smallest thing for yourself, which is not the impression you want people to have of you.

Do you perhaps have a library, school, or Internet cafe that might have a faster connection that you could go to? You might also consider changing ISPs if that is an option, because that's not even a 56K connection you're getting, and even if you're on dial-up, you might be able to do better.
 
Old 05-07-2004, 06:20 AM   #58
motub
Senior Member
 
Registered: Sep 2003
Location: The Netherlands
Distribution: Gentoo (main); SuSE 9.3 (fallback)
Posts: 1,607

Rep: Reputation: 46
If Mandrake 9.2 is available, I would strongly advise getting that rather than 10.0. 10.0 is not stable and a lot of people have been having serious problems with it. Some people have had no problems with it, but in your situation I would not take the chance. There are a couple of issues with Mandrake 9.2 (especially if you happen to have an LG CD-RW drive), but they are mostly relatively minor compared to the major issues I've heard of Mandrake 10.0 causing.

I myself disliked RedHat 9 with a passionate intensity, and I would say that Mandrake 9.2 was much better (certainly you would be able to play videos out of the box, in any event, as the default Mandrake install does give the codecs and the players), but because I so disliked pretty much everything about RedHat, and so enjoyed learning Linux on Mandrake, it's not really an objective opinion. Many people like RedHat just fine; maybe you will too once you get everything straightened out.
 
Old 05-07-2004, 06:40 AM   #59
mir_sheely
Member
 
Registered: Mar 2004
Location: KARACHI
Distribution: WIN 98, WIN XP Pro, Mandrake 9.2
Posts: 166

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 30
I tried right click on them and I found the "install packages" option in the open with menu list. I click on it but nothing. I also tried just single click on that. Now as u know that I am in windows, so I will later try them with terminal.
I think it is very hard to get mandrake 9.2 here and I saw MD 10 few weeks ago so it might be sold out as there was only one piece. In pakistan the Linux scope is very little and the people who uses Linux are using Redhat Linux. Is the problem with MD 10 effect me much?
 
Old 05-07-2004, 06:54 AM   #60
motub
Senior Member
 
Registered: Sep 2003
Location: The Netherlands
Distribution: Gentoo (main); SuSE 9.3 (fallback)
Posts: 1,607

Rep: Reputation: 46
No way to know. It seems fairly random.

Have you been to http://www.linuxpakistan.net/ ? I could only get to the discussion forums and not the Wiki, but you might have better luck. In any case, I'd think that even the forums would be more helpful than me in terms of telling you where a wider range of software might be available.
 
  


Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
No soundcard detected sambitnayak Linux - Hardware 1 04-21-2005 01:31 PM
Soundcard Not Detected durrrty Linux - Hardware 15 02-09-2005 11:37 AM
Soundcard not detected... FC2 TBennettcc Linux - Hardware 8 11-04-2004 10:40 AM
Soundcard not detected .... Now what? mir_sheely Linux - Hardware 8 03-31-2004 11:56 AM
Soundcard not being detected jon_k Linux - Software 1 08-05-2003 05:40 AM

LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > Linux Forums > Linux - Hardware

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:24 AM.

Main Menu
Advertisement
My LQ
Write for LQ
LinuxQuestions.org is looking for people interested in writing Editorials, Articles, Reviews, and more. If you'd like to contribute content, let us know.
Main Menu
Syndicate
RSS1  Latest Threads
RSS1  LQ News
Twitter: @linuxquestions
Open Source Consulting | Domain Registration