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Old 03-26-2005, 08:43 AM   #1
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Getting no sound out of my onboard VIA vt8237 sound card

Hi !!

i have my new computer working under Debian. I was able to install the sound card driver but there is no sound at all getting out of the speakers. I was able to install and use a SBLive 24bit on the same config (adding snd-ca0106 to the kernel), so it's most probably not an ALSA configuration problem. The mixer shows the different channels, XMMS can play songs (with ALSA or emulated OSS) but there is absolutely no sound coming out... i checked that the connectors were in the right jack plug. Perhaps the onboard soundcard is broken ?

I pulled out the front-panel connectors to be sure there was no problem coming from there. Enabling and adjusting the different output channels in a mixer (kmix) didn't help either (actually the first thing i tried at each try i made).

The soundcard driver is currently compiled as modules in the kernel. The problem is the same when they are built-in.

Here the infos of my config:
  • motherboard: ASRock 775V88
    ASRock 775V88 BIOS version: 1.20
    American Megatrend BIOS version: 2.54
    distro: debian unstable
    kernel: 2.6.11.5 (from kernel.org not debian kernel package)
lspci:
Code:
opal:~# lspci
0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 0258
0000:00:00.1 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 1258
0000:00:00.2 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 2258
0000:00:00.3 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 3258
0000:00:00.4 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 4258
0000:00:00.7 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 7258
0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237 PCI Bridge
0000:00:0f.0 RAID bus controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA VT6420 SATA RAID Controller (rev 80)
0000:00:0f.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06)
0000:00:10.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 81)
0000:00:10.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 81)
0000:00:10.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 81)
0000:00:10.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 81)
0000:00:10.4 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 86)
0000:00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237 ISA bridge [K8T800 South]
0000:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)
0000:00:12.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II] (rev 78)
0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 4153
0000:01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 4173
kernel config extract:
Code:
#
# Sound
#
CONFIG_SOUND=y

#
# Advanced Linux Sound Architecture
#
CONFIG_SND=y
CONFIG_SND_TIMER=y
CONFIG_SND_PCM=y
CONFIG_SND_RAWMIDI=m
# CONFIG_SND_SEQUENCER is not set
CONFIG_SND_OSSEMUL=y
CONFIG_SND_MIXER_OSS=y
CONFIG_SND_PCM_OSS=y
# CONFIG_SND_RTCTIMER is not set
# CONFIG_SND_VERBOSE_PRINTK is not set
# CONFIG_SND_DEBUG is not set

#
# Generic devices
#
CONFIG_SND_MPU401_UART=m
# CONFIG_SND_DUMMY is not set
# CONFIG_SND_MTPAV is not set
# CONFIG_SND_SERIAL_U16550 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_MPU401 is not set

#
# PCI devices
#
CONFIG_SND_AC97_CODEC=y
# CONFIG_SND_ALI5451 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ATIIXP is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ATIIXP_MODEM is not set
# CONFIG_SND_AU8810 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_AU8820 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_AU8830 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_AZT3328 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_BT87X is not set
# CONFIG_SND_CS46XX is not set
# CONFIG_SND_CS4281 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_EMU10K1 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_EMU10K1X is not set
CONFIG_SND_CA0106=y
# CONFIG_SND_KORG1212 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_MIXART is not set
# CONFIG_SND_NM256 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_RME32 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_RME96 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_RME9652 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_HDSP is not set
# CONFIG_SND_TRIDENT is not set
# CONFIG_SND_YMFPCI is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ALS4000 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_CMIPCI is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ENS1370 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ENS1371 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ES1938 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ES1968 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_MAESTRO3 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_FM801 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ICE1712 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ICE1724 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_INTEL8X0 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_INTEL8X0M is not set
# CONFIG_SND_SONICVIBES is not set
CONFIG_SND_VIA82XX=m
# CONFIG_SND_VIA82XX_MODEM is not set
# CONFIG_SND_VX222 is not set
lsmod extract (when configured as module):
Code:
opal:~# lsmod
Module                  Size  Used by
snd_via82xx            18592  1
snd_mpu401_uart         6528  1 snd_via82xx
snd_rawmidi            20256  1 snd_mpu401_uart
syslog extract (when configured as module):
Code:
Mar 26 13:40:37 localhost kernel: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.8 (Thu Jan 13 09:39:32 2005 UTC).
Mar 26 13:40:37 localhost kernel: ALSA device list:
Mar 26 13:40:37 localhost kernel:   No soundcards found.
When running alsaconf, i can choose the VIA soundcard, and it tells me that the config is ok, modules loaded and so on (which they are, looking at lsmod).

I googled but couldn't find any similar problem, all having driver install or config problems or such... Either the card is broken or i missed something specific for this card...
 
Old 03-26-2005, 01:28 PM   #2
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Re: Getting no sound out of my onboard VIA vt8237 sound card
Quote:
Originally posted by mgerber
Hi !!

i have my new computer working under Debian. I was able to install the sound card driver but there is no sound at all getting out of the speakers. I was able to install and use a SBLive 24bit on the same config (adding snd-ca0106 to the kernel), so it's most probably not an ALSA configuration problem. The mixer shows the different channels, XMMS can play songs (with ALSA or emulated OSS) but there is absolutely no sound coming out... i checked that the connectors were in the right jack plug. Perhaps the onboard soundcard is broken ?

I pulled out the front-panel connectors to be sure there was no problem coming from there. Enabling and adjusting the different output channels in a mixer (kmix) didn't help either (actually the first thing i tried at each try i made).

The soundcard driver is currently compiled as modules in the kernel. The problem is the same when they are built-in.

Here the infos of my config:
  • motherboard: ASRock 775V88
    ASRock 775V88 BIOS version: 1.20
    American Megatrend BIOS version: 2.54
    distro: debian unstable
    kernel: 2.6.11.5 (from kernel.org not debian kernel package)
lspci:
Code:
opal:~# lspci
0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 0258
0000:00:00.1 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 1258
0000:00:00.2 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 2258
0000:00:00.3 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 3258
0000:00:00.4 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 4258
0000:00:00.7 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 7258
0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237 PCI Bridge
0000:00:0f.0 RAID bus controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA VT6420 SATA RAID Controller (rev 80)
0000:00:0f.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06)
0000:00:10.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 81)
0000:00:10.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 81)
0000:00:10.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 81)
0000:00:10.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 81)
0000:00:10.4 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 86)
0000:00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237 ISA bridge [K8T800 South]
0000:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)
0000:00:12.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II] (rev 78)
0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 4153
0000:01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 4173
kernel config extract:
Code:
#
# Sound
#
CONFIG_SOUND=y

#
# Advanced Linux Sound Architecture
#
CONFIG_SND=y
CONFIG_SND_TIMER=y
CONFIG_SND_PCM=y
CONFIG_SND_RAWMIDI=m
# CONFIG_SND_SEQUENCER is not set
CONFIG_SND_OSSEMUL=y
CONFIG_SND_MIXER_OSS=y
CONFIG_SND_PCM_OSS=y
# CONFIG_SND_RTCTIMER is not set
# CONFIG_SND_VERBOSE_PRINTK is not set
# CONFIG_SND_DEBUG is not set

#
# Generic devices
#
CONFIG_SND_MPU401_UART=m
# CONFIG_SND_DUMMY is not set
# CONFIG_SND_MTPAV is not set
# CONFIG_SND_SERIAL_U16550 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_MPU401 is not set

#
# PCI devices
#
CONFIG_SND_AC97_CODEC=y
# CONFIG_SND_ALI5451 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ATIIXP is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ATIIXP_MODEM is not set
# CONFIG_SND_AU8810 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_AU8820 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_AU8830 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_AZT3328 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_BT87X is not set
# CONFIG_SND_CS46XX is not set
# CONFIG_SND_CS4281 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_EMU10K1 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_EMU10K1X is not set
CONFIG_SND_CA0106=y
# CONFIG_SND_KORG1212 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_MIXART is not set
# CONFIG_SND_NM256 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_RME32 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_RME96 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_RME9652 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_HDSP is not set
# CONFIG_SND_TRIDENT is not set
# CONFIG_SND_YMFPCI is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ALS4000 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_CMIPCI is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ENS1370 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ENS1371 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ES1938 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ES1968 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_MAESTRO3 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_FM801 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ICE1712 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ICE1724 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_INTEL8X0 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_INTEL8X0M is not set
# CONFIG_SND_SONICVIBES is not set
CONFIG_SND_VIA82XX=m
# CONFIG_SND_VIA82XX_MODEM is not set
# CONFIG_SND_VX222 is not set
lsmod extract (when configured as module):
Code:
opal:~# lsmod
Module                  Size  Used by
snd_via82xx            18592  1
snd_mpu401_uart         6528  1 snd_via82xx
snd_rawmidi            20256  1 snd_mpu401_uart
syslog extract (when configured as module):
Code:
Mar 26 13:40:37 localhost kernel: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.8 (Thu Jan 13 09:39:32 2005 UTC).
Mar 26 13:40:37 localhost kernel: ALSA device list:
Mar 26 13:40:37 localhost kernel:   No soundcards found.
When running alsaconf, i can choose the VIA soundcard, and it tells me that the config is ok, modules loaded and so on (which they are, looking at lsmod).

I googled but couldn't find any similar problem, all having driver install or config problems or such... Either the card is broken or i missed something specific for this card...

Hey, I have just the same problem. I've got sound only through ALSA and OSS. Arts output doesn't work at all.I don't know why... I have tested lots of distros, and in almost all of them I have this problem...I think it's just a configuration problem, but nobady knows what it could be... Ah, the last 2 distribution that I tested and got Arts output sucessfully were MDK 10.1 and Ubuntu Hoary 5.04.

In the futere, if you get the solution for this problem, please contact me, ok?
 
Old 03-26-2005, 02:23 PM   #3
mgerber
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Well, at least you get sound through ALSA and OSS, i don't. XMMS seems to play the songs, but i can't hear it, but no error either...

But i should try making arts work, perhaps i'll hear something then
 
Old 03-26-2005, 10:33 PM   #4
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I just got the sound working on a similar board.
I don't have it completely figured out yet but I'll tell you
what I've done so far.

I ran alsaconf which loaded the via82xx module.
I ran alsamixer to set things where I wanted.
Ran alsactl store (as root)

I'm a KDE user so through the control center I set the soundsystem
hardware to alsa. (this crashed the sound system so I logged out then back in)
While playing a CD I opened kmix and started messing about.
I made sure that the proper inputs were unmuted.
In the switches section the only things I have UNMUTED are:

Mic Select
IEC95B Playback Source
Mono Output Select
Externel Amplifier
Input Source Select
Input Source Select (two)

I think muting one of the other switches is what got me going, but
as I said I just got it going and I'm not at the machine right now to
follow up.
 
Old 03-27-2005, 06:21 AM   #5
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Ok, thank !! i installed arts yesterday and then playing with the switches i get sound... But even disabling the KDE sound system (arts) and using directly ALSA or OSS output plugin in XMMS is working now... it didn't yesterday...

In the mixer (kmix) only the first VIA DXS output level works for volume adjusting, all the other don't.

Then i have some other problems, but well, seems to me i'll never get it working good but then it wouldn't be fun anymore if all worked right from the beginning !!

The front panel audio output is much lower volume than back panel ?? maybe i didn't plug the connectors correctly (documentation isn't worth reading...)

well thank you both for your help
 
Old 03-27-2005, 09:02 AM   #6
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corrected my front panel connection settings (HW) it works now. had to unscrew the whole front of the case to have a look at how things are connected... thanks for the good description of how to connect things in the case documentation and mainboard documentation !!!

still wonder what all the volume adapting levels are for which don't seem to work for the main sound channel... (only one works) but well, at least i got sound now
 
Old 04-07-2005, 05:36 AM   #7
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Quote:
Originally posted by auditek747
I just got the sound working on a similar board.
I don't have it completely figured out yet but I'll tell you
what I've done so far.

I ran alsaconf which loaded the via82xx module.
I ran alsamixer to set things where I wanted. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...postid=1555542
Ran alsactl store (as root)

I'm a KDE user so through the control center I set the soundsystem
hardware to alsa. (this crashed the sound system so I logged out then back in)
While playing a CD I opened kmix and started messing about.
I made sure that the proper inputs were unmuted.
In the switches section the only things I have UNMUTED are:

Mic Select
IEC95B Playback Source
Mono Output Select
Externel Amplifier
Input Source Select
Input Source Select (two)

I think muting one of the other switches is what got me going, but
as I said I just got it going and I'm not at the machine right now to
follow up.
Thank you very much, I've had this problem in Slackware 10.1, and your advice solved this problem. I then went through each option, muting and unmuting it, and found IEC958 Capture Monitor was what was muting the sound. Keep this muted and you're fine.
 
Old 05-07-2005, 05:18 PM   #8
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I'm having a similar problem under Mandrake 10.1 Official and Kernel.org kernel 2.6.11.8. I've loaded the alsa module(s) for my AC97 onboard sound, set the mixer levels, checked that nothing was awry but still *NO* sound at all. The mandrake supplied stock kernels give the same problem. sound producing app's like xmms run and are able to change the mixer levels ok but nothing is heard through the speakers. The system is connected to a hi-fi via a jack to 2 phono plugs, and that cable is fine as it makes nose when the unplugged jack plug is touched with noise coming through both speakers.

lsmod output:-
Code:
[root@utopia poohbear]# lsmod
Module                  Size  Used by
snd_via82xx            23872  0
snd_ac97_codec         74616  1 snd_via82xx
snd_pcm                85960  2 snd_via82xx,snd_ac97_codec
snd_timer              22660  1 snd_pcm
snd_page_alloc          7556  2 snd_via82xx,snd_pcm
gameport                3584  1 snd_via82xx
snd_mpu401_uart         6400  1 snd_via82xx
snd_rawmidi            21216  1 snd_mpu401_uart
snd_seq_device          6860  1 snd_rawmidi
snd                    48100  7 snd_via82xx,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device
soundcore               7840  1 snd
binfmt_misc             9160  1
vmnet                  26852  12
parport_pc             37316  0
parport                33288  1 parport_pc
vmmon                 105356  0
md5                     3712  1
ipv6                  250304  10
af_packet              17864  0
loop                   13512  0
nls_iso8859_1           3840  2
vfat                   11648  2
fat                    36764  1 vfat
via_agp                 7488  1
agpgart                28712  1 via_agp
ehci_hcd               30088  0
uhci_hcd               29456  0
usbcore               109880  3 ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd
video                  13828  0
thermal                10504  0
processor              18356  1 thermal
fan                     3140  0
button                  4880  0
battery                 7556  0
ac                      3332  0
[root@utopia poohbear]#
lspci output:-
Code:
[root@utopia poohbear]# lspci
<<< SNIP >>>
00:11.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06)
00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 MX 420] (rev a3)
[root@utopia poohbear]#
Anyone have any ideas??
 
Old 05-08-2005, 07:08 PM   #9
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Any takers??

I've just tried Mandriva 2005LE and the stock mdk kernel but it still aint workin and I want my moozik back!
 
Old 05-17-2005, 05:57 PM   #10
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I've come to the conclusion that my motherboard has gone up the creek, as everything was fine, and I went back to the 2.6.0 kernel using a config file that I knew worked.

I've just put in a new MSI board and it's working flawlessly!
 
Old 05-29-2005, 09:09 AM   #11
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Here's what I did, let alsaconfig install the 82xx modules, then edit /etc/asound.state and kill the monitor capture by setting it to false

then set the dx1 volume with alsamixer and your good to go, I havent played with it much, hey its working !!!

rexima wont adjust the dx volumes, and at boot time dmesg spits out somthing about dxx_support=1 or dxx_support=4, I havent tried that either

the viaarena drivers might work with rpm systems, dunno, have no way of trying it, rpm2tgz with slackware on it was a waste of time, it needs the rpm --rebuild option to be built against the kernel
 
Old 05-29-2005, 09:24 AM   #12
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I already had problems with this sound card, here is what i did to solve the problems:

Download the alsa-driver package from http://alsa-project.org/
unpack the package

$./configure --with-cards=via82xx --with-sequencer=yes
$make
#make install
.#/snddevices
#cd utils/
#sh module-options
#sh alsasound stop
#sh alsasound start

#alsaconf
#alsamixer
Put all the channels mute, EXCEPT: master, PCM, Center, CD, IEC958 P, VIA DXS (all the VIA DXS).

This works for me and I believe more channels can be putted on :-)
Last edited by Grajagan; 05-29-2005 at 09:25 AM.
 
  


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