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273 01-23-2013 08:10 AM

I've had no other issues, though I'd not really expect to since most motherboards seem to be OK I think.

cascade9 01-23-2013 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Cityscape (Post 4875656)
This is a family desktop ny brother & I are building and he is a photographer and does video editing. So a budget gamer card is what we need and I think the 650 fits the bill! And we found a great sale on one. :D

I wouldnt just hope or guess that the GPU will be used.......

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Originally Posted by 273 (Post 4875669)
My NVIDIA GT 640 required the usual driver changes to non-free and some changes using nvidia-settings. I'm used to it though as I run two displays and I found that only running a card that's about couple of years old through one display will tend to work without some messing around. The GTX's are the same generation and I'd expect them to be supported the same, despite my card's relative puniness. My experience is that, though you might need to get them from NVIDIA themselves, the NVIDIA Linux drivers are good and current.

I wouldnt really call the GTX 6XX cards 'the same generation' as the GT 6XX cards. Over half the GT 6XX cards are rebranded GT 4XX or GT 5XX cards.

The rebranding alone is enough to cause troubles with nouveau and the closed drivers. As far as the closed drivers go, GTX 650 needs newer (304.51+) drivers than the GT 6XX cards (mostly supported from 295.53 onward, though made harder to know for sure by nVidias infuriating 'rebranding').

I havent checked with nouveau, but I'd suspect that most GT 6XX cards will run with nouveau versions dating from 05-2012 onward, GTX 650/650 Ti will need drivers from at least 10-2012 or later...and I wouldnt be suprised if it was a fair bit later, the GTX 650s are all G'K'epler 10X chips. The kepler architecture is new enough to have problems with nouveau.

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Originally Posted by Cityscape (Post 4875656)
Great point! The board you suggest would be fine and I'd save $45 that I could put towards maybe an SSD or something. My original idea was to not go cheap on the mobo or CPU since they are not easy to upgrade. I already bought an AMD FX 1850 CPU, partly because I got a free $80 liquid cooling kit with it.

Oh dear.....the FX-8350s are a better chip, and the water cooling you get with the FX-8XXX chips is nice for social cachet, but fairly crap if compared to 'real' water cooling...like the 'water cooling kits' the FX-8XXX water cooling can be beatern on all fronts by good air cooling.

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Originally Posted by Cityscape (Post 4875656)
I was looking at the comments for a Gigabyte board on Newegg that has the same LAN as the Asrock board you mentioned and this was their comment: "The included Realtek 8111E LAN chip does not work in most Linux distros, even very recent ones." However some other people had it run fine.

Newegg reviews arent worth the time to look at them in 99%+ of cases.

IIRC I've used a 8111E with linux and it was fine...havent got the board here to check with though so I'm not 100% sure it was 8111E.

TobiSGD 01-23-2013 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Cityscape (Post 4875656)
I was looking at the comments for a Gigabyte board on Newegg that has the same LAN as the Asrock board you mentioned and this was their comment: "The included Realtek 8111E LAN chip does not work in most Linux distros, even very recent ones." However some other people had it run fine.

My ASUS M5A99X Evo uses that chip and it worked out of the box with Slackware 13.37 (kernel 2.6.37.6), Slackware 14.0 (kernel 3.2.29) and now Slackware -current (kernel 3.7.1).

Cityscape 01-23-2013 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TobiSGD (Post 4876144)
My ASUS M5A99X Evo uses that chip and it worked out of the box with Slackware 13.37 (kernel 2.6.37.6), Slackware 14.0 (kernel 3.2.29) and now Slackware -current (kernel 3.7.1).

That's good to know! I'm actually considering getting the board that you have! I'm guessing it works well for Linux? :D

Can you change the power settings for your fan headers in your BIOS? We got a liquid cooling kit and the pump needs 100% power instead of variable power.

TobiSGD 01-23-2013 05:05 PM

I can choose various fan regulation setups or just disable them, which gives 100% to the fan. Keep in mind that I only bought this board because I got it cheap and because it has very good (and over-dimensioned) voltage regulator modules, which makes overclocking easier/more stable.

Cityscape 01-23-2013 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TobiSGD (Post 4876437)
I can choose various fan regulation setups or just disable them, which gives 100% to the fan. Keep in mind that I only bought this board because I got it cheap and because it has very good (and over-dimensioned) voltage regulator modules, which makes overclocking easier/more stable.

Okay, sounds like that should work for our liquid cooling setup. :)
You make it sound like it's not a good board but you got it cheap. ;)

If a bunch of boards all have the same northbridge and southbridge chipsets (say the AMD 990X and the SB 950), the same LAN (Realtek 8111) and the same audio, then they should all be same for Linux compatibility, right?

TobiSGD 01-23-2013 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Cityscape (Post 4876454)
You make it sound like it's not a good board but you got it cheap. ;)

No, I make it (intentionally) sound like just because that board fits my needs it does not have to fit yours. This is a midrange overclocker board for people that possibly intend to run more than one videocard in the system.
For a machine that neither will be overclocked nor will run several videocards I wouldn't even consider this board, since this board adds no real value to a system without those needs. I think I would settle for the M5A97 (maybe the Pro version) or an equivalent board from Gigabyte.

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If a bunch of boards all have the same northbridge and southbridge chipsets (say the AMD 990X and the SB 950), the same LAN (Realtek 8111) and the same audio, then they should all be same for Linux compatibility, right?
If there are no additional chips, like disk controllers or whatever else on one of the boards then yes, there shouldn't be a difference in compatibility.

Cityscape 01-23-2013 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TobiSGD (Post 4876479)
No, I make it (intentionally) sound like just because that board fits my needs it does not have to fit yours. This is a midrange overclocker board for people that possibly intend to run more than one videocard in the system.
For a machine that neither will be overclocked nor will run several videocards I wouldn't even consider this board, since this board adds no real value to a system without those needs. I think I would settle for the M5A97 (maybe the Pro version) or an equivalent board from Gigabyte.

Okay, I see what you meant now! :)
I've taken a look and I think the M5A97 would fit my needs and at a lower price!!! Your board does have eSATA and an extra 2 2 USB ports that the MA97 doesn't have but I think I live without those and save money. Would the MA97 work just as well for Linux?

TobiSGD 01-24-2013 05:05 AM

I don't see any problems with Linux compatibility and the M5A97.

Ztcoracat 01-24-2013 09:36 PM

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650/650 Ti will need drivers from at least 10-2012 or later
Acknowledged; but will the brand new card that just comes out tomorrow need a driver as well?

If so; is it possible that in the future hardware engineers will be able to manufacturer and build a card that is
non-dependent on a driver? (might be far fetched but finding a driver sometimes can be a real pain in #$ #!b-!)

TobiSGD 01-24-2013 09:38 PM

No, any card will need a driver.

Ztcoracat 01-24-2013 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TobiSGD (Post 4877095)
No, any card will need a driver.

'Any card'; got it-

Cityscape 01-27-2013 10:12 PM

Thank you all so much for your help! :D

I decide to go with:
Asus M5A97 motherboard
Nvidia Geforce GTX 950 graphics card
AMD FX-8150 3.6Ghz (turbo to 4.2)
1.5 TB hard drive 7200rpm
8 GB DDR3 1600mhz RAM

I've order the parts and can't wait to build it! :D Thanks again!

Ztcoracat 01-28-2013 01:17 PM

Your Welcome and Good luck!

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