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Old 11-27-2012, 02:25 PM   #1
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[INTEL] how to upgrade driver


Hi all

My laptop was broken, needed to replace the HDD.
So I did replace it and installed Ubuntu 12.04 (previously it was Windows 7)
Now, I installed Diablo 3 with playonlinux and Wine.
Install went fine, but when I click on play it says that my graphical drivers needs to be updated.

Now, I believe I don't have a seperate graphical card (onboard)
The processor I have is a Intel Pentium P6200.

Does anyone know how I can update this driver?

Thanks

Dragonix
 
Old 11-27-2012, 05:18 PM   #2
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Hi,

could you please post the output of
Code:
lspci -k | grep -iA3 graph
or if this doesn't show any output use
Code:
lspci -k | grep -iA3 video
this will show us which graphics adapter you're using and which module is loaded.

It would also be good to know which kernelversion you're running, you can check this with uname -r

Markus
 
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Old 11-28-2012, 01:02 AM   #3
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Thanks!
Unfortunately, it has to wait until I get back home (most likely on Friday)..
But I will keep this thread posted!
 
Old 11-28-2012, 06:48 AM   #4
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P6200 is a cut down intel 'Arrandale' CPU.

From the tests I've seen the newer intel 'sandy bridge' and 'ivy bridge' intergrated video is only just capable of playing Diablo 3 at low resolutons (1024x768 or smaller) with low detail, and even then they get _very_ slow framerates.

Arrandale intergrated video isnt as fast as the sandy bridge/ivy bridge intergrated video, WINE tends to run slower than native windows installs.

If you want to try it, I'd probably get newer drivers etc fom xorg-edgers-

https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa

All in all IMO even if you get it running it will be at very low resoltuions and detail levels, and will still run very badly.
 
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Old 11-28-2012, 07:05 AM   #5
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hmm.. damn..
The laptop was only for school and internet browsing things.
I will try the link (hopefully today) and see how it goes.

Thanks for the advice!
 
Old 11-28-2012, 12:33 PM   #6
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Hi,

could you please post the output of
Code:
lspci -k | grep -iA3 graph
or if this doesn't show any output use
Code:
lspci -k | grep -iA3 video
this will show us which graphics adapter you're using and which module is loaded.

It would also be good to know which kernelversion you're running, you can check this with uname -r

Markus
Code:
lspci -k | grep -iA3 graph
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 18)
	Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI] Device 0379
	Kernel driver in use: i915
	Kernel modules: i915
 
Old 11-28-2012, 01:07 PM   #7
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P6200 is a cut down intel 'Arrandale' CPU.

From the tests I've seen the newer intel 'sandy bridge' and 'ivy bridge' intergrated video is only just capable of playing Diablo 3 at low resolutons (1024x768 or smaller) with low detail, and even then they get _very_ slow framerates.

Arrandale intergrated video isnt as fast as the sandy bridge/ivy bridge intergrated video, WINE tends to run slower than native windows installs.

If you want to try it, I'd probably get newer drivers etc fom xorg-edgers-

https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa

All in all IMO even if you get it running it will be at very low resoltuions and detail levels, and will still run very badly.
I did following commands
Code:
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gwibber-daily/ppa
Afterwards I tried again, but no success
So I cannot run it on this laptop?

Just a question, is it hard (and do-able) to change the processor?
 
Old 11-28-2012, 01:39 PM   #8
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Just a question, is it hard (and do-able) to change the processor?
this depends on your knowledge. Normally you will have no advantages of a new processor because you still limited by the mainboard and the bios.

I would recommend to install a more lightweight distribution. But I think in your case the restriction is the intel-graphics. If it were a desktop you could put an additional graphics-card into the machine, but I suppose that this is not possible with a laptop.

My friend has a Intel i5 with integrated graphics and Windows 7, 4GB of RAM, but many of the games which her children want to play don't run. I would say, that in general Intel onboard-graphics isn't suitable for your needs (but I'm no expert).

As for your original question: I don't think that you can update the driver, as far as I know, there's only the kernelmodule for the intel adapter (i915) and you could only install a more recent kernel, but since you're running a recent version of Ubuntu, I doubt that this would be useful.

Markus
 
Old 11-29-2012, 12:39 AM   #9
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I even got 5 GB RAM..
Anyway, thanks for the support and help!
Much appreciated!

So overall, Intel processors with onboard graphics-card is not suitable to play recent games
 
Old 11-29-2012, 01:28 AM   #10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dragonix View Post
I did following commands
Code:
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gwibber-daily/ppa
Afterwards I tried again, but no success
So I cannot run it on this laptop?
Why did you add gwibber-daily/ppa?

It might still be possible to get it running...I dont know if yuo have gallium 3d installed, etc..

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Just a question, is it hard (and do-able) to change the processor?
How hard it is to change the CPU in a laptop, or if its even possible varies from manufacturer to manufacturer and model to model.

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So overall, Intel processors with onboard graphics-card is not suitable to play recent games
Depends on the game. Many games will run fine with intel graphics, its the 'heavy' games that will refuse to run or run very badly.

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I even got 5 GB RAM..
For you info, 5GB of RAM will actually be slightly slower than 4GB/6GB/8GB/etc. due to 'dual channel RAM'.


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I would recommend to install a more lightweight distribution. But I think in your case the restriction is the intel-graphics. If it were a desktop you could put an additional graphics-card into the machine, but I suppose that this is not possible with a laptop.
Never common, and now virutally unused, but it was possible to upgrade video cards in some laptops with MXM slots.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_PCI_Express_Module

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As for your original question: I don't think that you can update the driver, as far as I know, there's only the kernelmodule for the intel adapter (i915) and you could only install a more recent kernel, but since you're running a recent version of Ubuntu, I doubt that this would be useful.
Its not just the kernel that provides support, other bits and pieces (e.g. xorg) are also important.
 
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Old 11-29-2012, 03:36 AM   #11
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Its not just the kernel that provides support, other bits and pieces (e.g. xorg) are also important.
Well, the kernelversion is responsible for the hardwaresupport. Maybe that a recent version of xorg would be good, but what I wrote about the kernel is also true for xorg and other packages, if you have a recent version of Ubuntu installed you will probably have already recent versions of all packages.

Markus
 
Old 11-29-2012, 05:31 AM   #12
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Why did you add gwibber-daily/ppa?

It might still be possible to get it running...I dont know if yuo have gallium 3d installed, etc..
No, what is that?
 
Old 11-29-2012, 06:01 AM   #13
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Gallium 3D is a open source 3d version-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallium3D

As far as I know it isnt the standard 3d version for late model intel video chip, and installing it may break your desktop, display or have other unwanted effects.

Its not worth trying IMO.
 
Old 11-29-2012, 06:21 AM   #14
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Lets say that my laptop do breaks down, will I be able to fix it with reinstalling Ubuntu?
 
Old 11-29-2012, 06:29 AM   #15
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Lets say that my laptop do breaks down, will I be able to fix it with reinstalling Ubuntu?
As I understand cascade9 he means that you probably can't access your desktop when it doesn't work. I've only few experience with Ubuntu, but it should be possible to start the computer into runlevel 3 (without X11) and then start X11 with the startx command. The advantage is that if X11 breaks due to the driver, you can go back to the console with <CTRL><ALT><BACKSPACE> and if you reboot, you're again on the console and can uninstall the driver. So: no need to reinstall the complete OS.

Markus
 
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