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Old 09-03-2004, 11:05 AM   #16
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I use IE for website development. Just for testing webpages.
First you have to install wine and it should be running.
Then download and install winetools .
This will install IE for you.

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Old 09-08-2004, 01:58 AM   #17
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IE 5.0

How do I install an isolated version of wine? I would like to install a previous version of wine as the instructions for IE5 in frankscorner does not work with my install of wine, which is a recent version. My hunch is that his instruction only works with an older wine version.

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Old 09-10-2004, 10:26 PM   #18
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Lol. What's wrong with IE?

Well first -- you pointed it out. It has security holes bigger than the grand canyon, to the point where the Department of Defence reccomends against using it.

Second -- they have tons of parsing errors, effectively making it a web designers nightmare, forcing you to either design your website around IE or having it display improperly in other browsers (or not display at all), in effect punishing them for their CORRECT working.

Third -- No tabbed browsing. I mean come on...

Fourth -- IE is ugly. Plain and simple.
 
Old 09-13-2004, 05:40 AM   #19
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Second -- they have tons of parsing errors, effectively making it a web designers nightmare, forcing you to either design your website around IE or having it display improperly in other browsers (or not display at all), in effect punishing them for their CORRECT working.
Com'on. Have you really done any web development for a client?

Some people might insist that simply coding standards-compliant pages would be enough. Standards compliant browsers would have no problems displaying your website then. This is ok if you're working on your own personal pages: you can tell your audience with impunity to go change their browsers. If they leave, it's their loss . For business-related sites however, your audience wouldn't care. They leave and it's your client's loss. You've done your client a disservice.

Designing your websites around IE does NOT need to break compatibility across standards-compliant browsers. There's a ton of hacks that a web developer could use to isolate some of their code to IE browsers only. Additionally, IE5+ has a conditional comments feature, which you could use to isolate some of your HTML to IE browsers only.

Yes, IE is a web developer's nightmare. But as a responsible web developer, it is your responsibility to have your site work for 70+ percent of browsers out there! HOWEVER, the cardinal rule is: design your site around STANDARDS-COMPLIANT BROWSERS FIRST, then work around IE bugs. Where other web developers err is that they design around IE first, then when they try to make their site work with other browsers, sometimes they will find that it will take a lot of effort to fix their code.

Maybe in a perfect world, we could ignore IE. This is not that world.
 
Old 09-14-2004, 07:49 PM   #20
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Com'on. Have you really done any web development for a client?
Maybe in a perfect world, we could ignore IE. This is not that world.
Yes I have done web development for a client, and yes I realize that most people are too stupid to switch from IE.

No I do not deny that there are hacks that hide code from everything but IE, such as Tantek Celik's BMH (the ridiculously infamous voice-family: "\"}\""; voice-family:inherit, however all that is doing is a) scaring novices away from serious web design that is standards compliant and b) creating extra work for the webmaster/designer.
 
Old 09-15-2004, 03:14 AM   #21
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most people are too stupid to switch from IE.
I think, "ignorant" is more like it.
 
  


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