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lampamp 09-16-2009 03:07 PM

Will dual boot affect my pc?
 
i'm thinking of installing windows xp and fedora 11 together
will it affect my pc's speed, ram,cpu?

brianL 09-16-2009 03:11 PM

No, not at all.

greeneagle 09-16-2009 04:01 PM

You have to share hard disk space; divide up your hard disk between windows and linux. (Though of course linux can mount the windows partitions.)

You will have all memory and cpu available of course in whichever you boot into.

lampamp 09-16-2009 04:03 PM

happy to hear that
thx guys :)

lampamp 09-16-2009 04:07 PM

just a question
i have windows xp already installed
so it's ok right?
i don't have to install fedora first right?

brianL 09-16-2009 04:07 PM

Install Windows first, less complications that way. Give it whatever space you want, and leave the rest as unallocated space.
Just seen your last post as I posted this.
You'll need to defrag and resize your XP partion if it's taking up the whole disk.

lampamp 09-16-2009 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianL (Post 3685852)
Install Windows first, less complications that way. Give it whatever space you want, and leave the rest as unallocated space.

so i have no problems
thx :)

brianL 09-16-2009 04:16 PM

You shouldn't have any. Just ask if you need any more details.

linuxraja 09-16-2009 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lampamp (Post 3685738)
i'm thinking of installing windows xp and fedora 11 together
will it affect my pc's speed, ram,cpu?



Harddisk space - Yes!

Rest everything - Nopes!
:)

linux

lampamp 09-18-2009 07:25 AM

i have a problem

i have windows xp installed on my master hard disk
and i have another hard disk
so i entered the windows xp cd just to create partitions in the slave hard disk
after that i installed fedora on one of the slave hd partitions
but when i reboot
i get windows xp
and in windows xp when i press on the hard disk which (should) have fedora
it tells me that it's not formatted, do you want to format it now?
i even dont get a screen which ask me to select xp or fedora
what shall i do?

mobinskariya 09-18-2009 07:31 AM

you must install grub in mbr.. and in normal case you cant see any linux partitions such as ext2, ext3 or ext4 from windows

pixellany 09-18-2009 07:33 AM

When you installed Fedora, it should have installed a bootloader---do you recall this step, and what option you chose? A common default is to install the bootloader on the #1 drive but--since you are just getting booted into Windows, this is not what happened.

One option is to boot up from the Linux CD and install the bootloader from there. But first (using the linux CD), run "fdisk -l" in a terminal and post the results here.

If you installed the bootloader to the 2nd drive, then you can maybe boot Fedora by switching the boot order in the BIOS setup.

lampamp 09-18-2009 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pixellany (Post 3688424)
When you installed Fedora, it should have installed a bootloader---do you recall this step, and what option you chose? A common default is to install the bootloader on the #1 drive but--since you are just getting booted into Windows, this is not what happened.

One option is to boot up from the Linux CD and install the bootloader from there. But first (using the linux CD), run "fdisk -l" in a terminal and post the results here.

If you installed the bootloader to the 2nd drive, then you can maybe boot Fedora by switching the boot order in the BIOS setup.

i did't touch the first hd
not a single option
i made everything on the no 2 hd

now i formated the partition again
i started the installer
it does not give me the partitions
it gives me the whole hard disks

in my situation
i have 2 hard disks:

500gb (using the whole hd)

80gb:
1-60gb (free space)
2-20gb (for fedora)

but on the screen it doesn't show me the partitions
it gives me the whole hard disks

now on the screen im having:

Select the drive(s) to use for installation.
sda 76317 MB ATA WDC WD800BB-00FJ
sdb 476938 MB ATA WDC WD5000AACS-0


and what should i select:
-Use entire drive
-Replace existing Linux System
-Shrink Current System
-Use Free Space
-Create Custom layout

just to remind: i want to install it on the ntfs 20gb partition located in the 80gb hd (sda)

lampamp 09-18-2009 08:27 AM

and under it i have

What Drive would you like to boot from?

yancek 09-18-2009 10:31 AM

When you installed Fedora, at the end of the installation it should give you options as to where to install the Grub bootloader. If you don't want to touch the drive with xp on it, you should install Grub to the master boot record of the drive you installed Fedora on. If you do this, you will need to select that drive to boot from in your BIOS during boot.

You can then put an entry in the Grub menu.lst or grub.conf file to boot xp from that drive. You could also add Fedora to your xp bootloader but that is a little more complicated.

Did you reformat the partition you had Fedora on? From xp?

lampamp 09-18-2009 02:07 PM

i formated the partition in ext3
installed fedora
right before it started installing the packages it asked me where to install the bootloader
so i chose to install it on my master hd which has xp

after the install finishes i reboot
but i get windows xp directly without any grub screen or anything

i even made the hd that has fedora above the hd that has xp in boot sequence
but i still get xp

because the partition that has fedora is in ext3 format i cannot browse it using xp

looks like fedora didnt install correctly, but why???????????

yancek 09-18-2009 04:40 PM

I haven't used windows for years but, from reading here at LQ and other sites, it seems windows does not recognize any non-windows partitions and cannot read/write to them. I understand there is third party software available that you can install on windows to do this?? Don't know for sure.

In your post (#10) you indicate you don't get a ascreen to select xp or Fedora on boot. If you didn't make any entry for this in the windows bootloader, it won't be there. This has to be done manually. You will usually need to make an entry in the Fedora menu.lst file also, most other distributions recognize a windows partition and create an entry and from what I read, Fedora doesn't usually do this. Haven't installed Fedora since Core 6 so I'm not positive about this.

In your last post, you say you chose to install Grub bootloader files on the drive with xp which contradicts what you said in post #13 that you didn't touch the first hard drive (with xp). Which is it??

You should probably post your partition information. Load your Fedora install disk and open a terminal window, log in as root and run the command: fdisk -l, this will show partition information so post that here. Next step would be to mount your partition with Fedora if it installed to look at the menu.lst or grub.conf file. If you don't know how to do that, post back.

lampamp 09-18-2009 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yancek (Post 3689051)
I haven't used windows for years but, from reading here at LQ and other sites, it seems windows does not recognize any non-windows partitions and cannot read/write to them. I understand there is third party software available that you can install on windows to do this?? Don't know for sure.

In your post (#10) you indicate you don't get a ascreen to select xp or Fedora on boot. If you didn't make any entry for this in the windows bootloader, it won't be there. This has to be done manually. You will usually need to make an entry in the Fedora menu.lst file also, most other distributions recognize a windows partition and create an entry and from what I read, Fedora doesn't usually do this. Haven't installed Fedora since Core 6 so I'm not positive about this.

In your last post, you say you chose to install Grub bootloader files on the drive with xp which contradicts what you said in post #13 that you didn't touch the first hard drive (with xp). Which is it??

You should probably post your partition information. Load your Fedora install disk and open a terminal window, log in as root and run the command: fdisk -l, this will show partition information so post that here. Next step would be to mount your partition with Fedora if it installed to look at the menu.lst or grub.conf file. If you don't know how to do that, post back.

i installed it first
then i posted the thread
then i formatted it again and posted again

so every time i have a different problem
but the problem always there is that even when i boot from the drive that contains fedora as master, i get windows xp
as if fedora is not installed! :(

yancek 09-18-2009 10:14 PM

Quote:

i installed it first
I assume "it" means Fedora?

Quote:

then i formatted it again and posted again
Formatted the Fedora partitions?

If you formatted the Fedora partitions you have basically deleted what was on them so did you re-install Fedora to those partitions?

Quote:

but the problem always there is that even when i boot from the drive that contains fedora as master, i get windows xp
as if fedora is not installed!
If you set the Fedora drive to first boot priority in your BIOS and still can't boot it but boot windows, you didn't install Grub bootloader file to the master boot record of the Fedora drive.

Post your partition information. Use the Fedora CD, open a terminal, log in as root, run the "fdisk -l" command (that is a lower case Letter L not a one). Without this info and suggestions will just be guesses.

lampamp 09-19-2009 05:55 AM

using rescue mode

Quote:

sh-4.0#fdisk -l

Disk /dev/sda: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x75709988

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 1 2550 20482843+ c W95 FAT32 (LBA)
/dev/sda2 2551 9728 57657285 f W95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/sda5 2551 9728 57657253+ 7 HPFS/NTFS

Disk /dev/sdb: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xf3bef3be

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sdb1 * 1 60800 488375968+ 7 HPFS/NTFS


i noticed that there is a star under boot in the 500gb hard disk

mobinskariya 09-19-2009 08:05 AM

where is your fedora partition??

yancek 09-19-2009 09:44 AM

Quote:

i noticed that there is a star under boot in the 500gb hard disk
That means it's active/bootable partition needed for windows.

You don't have a Fedora partition on either disk. Might try the install again and decide which disk/partition you want to put it on and install Grub to the master boot record - I'm assuming you plan to use the 80GB disk.

lampamp 09-19-2009 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yancek (Post 3689683)
That means it's active/bootable partition needed for windows.

You don't have a Fedora partition on either disk. Might try the install again and decide which disk/partition you want to put it on and install Grub to the master boot record - I'm assuming you plan to use the 80GB disk.

thx
i made a /boot directory
and got it to work :)

rob.rice 09-20-2009 11:21 PM

pull the windoze HDD out install linux on drive0 install the windoze HDD as drive1 (BIOS drive names)
remap the windoze HDD to drive0 in your boot loader configuration file

lilo
map-drive=<num>
Maps BIOS calls for the specified drive to the device code specified on the next line as
to=<num>. This mapping is useful for booting operating systems, such as DOS, from the second
hard drive. The following, swaps the C: and D: drives,

map-drive=0x80
to=0x81
map-drive=0x81
to=0x80

add the map options to the windoze section in lilo.conf

windoze will never know it's not on the first drive

lampamp 09-22-2009 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rob.rice (Post 3691174)
pull the windoze HDD out install linux on drive0 install the windoze HDD as drive1 (BIOS drive names)
remap the windoze HDD to drive0 in your boot loader configuration file

lilo
map-drive=<num>
Maps BIOS calls for the specified drive to the device code specified on the next line as
to=<num>. This mapping is useful for booting operating systems, such as DOS, from the second
hard drive. The following, swaps the C: and D: drives,

map-drive=0x80
to=0x81
map-drive=0x81
to=0x80

add the map options to the windoze section in lilo.conf

windoze will never know it's not on the first drive

when i get the grub screen i get 2 kernels and "other"

1-how can i change the default kernel?
2-when i select other the screen becomes black and i get no xp

*fedora is installed on master hd


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