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Old 08-14-2013, 08:15 AM   #1
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Which USB multi-boot supports Win 7 install, Hiren and Linux on same pendrive?


I made an NTFS flash drice using Yumi, the Win 7 Install image and Hiren's Boot CD works, but none of the Linux ISOs (Ubuntu, Fedora, Suse, etc.) What's the problem? Is there a better one than Yumi?

If I want to have a Windows 7 image as well, (and otherwise) it is better to use NTFS, right?

On a separate occasion, Damn Small Linux and Puppy worked from the same NTFS drive.
 
Old 08-19-2013, 07:40 AM   #2
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Maybe I should try another forum with this question? OK. Which one?
 
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I've never used YUMI but the site says FAT32 or ntfs so ntfs should not be the problem?
What exactly does "not work" mean? Do you get any warning/error messages during your attempt to put the Linux system on the flash drive?
Any warning/error messages on boot? What does happen?

Have you gone through th troubleshooting section on the YUMI page? Found the comment below there.

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* YUMI does support NTFS, however not all distributions will boot from an NTFS formatted device.
I usually do this manually so I've never used these type of programs. Good luck with it.
 
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If you want to run win and linux off a stick, use fat32.
 
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If you want to run win and linux off a stick, use fat32.
But a Windows 7 install will not run from FAT32, right?
 
Old 08-20-2013, 06:44 AM   #6
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Is there a way that I can run various Linux distros (may or may not require FAT32) AND a Windows 7 install partition (I guess it requires NTFS) from the same partition?
 
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Why not create two partitions? The only way to find out if your windows install image will run from FAT32 is to try it. Well, I guess you could go to the microsoft or some windows site, I would expect you would get better info there. Since it is not an actual windows install but just the installation image, it might work. Found the site below, use at your own risk:

http://www.techtree.com/content/feat...windows-8.html
 
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YUMI is excellent, but yes I have heard of a more sophisticated one. Here is a review/tutorial of the tool. Use it, and if it turns out to be indeed better, then do let us know here, so we may recommend it specifically to others as well.

Like @yancek, I have only used multiboot linux distros, and mostly perform all the steps by myself.

It is difficult, if not downright impossible to make Windows recognise multiple partitions in a removable flash drive. This is because of some bit that is set within the system, that flags it as removable, therefore "single partition" only. Sooner or later, you will hit this wall, and it will lead of immense frustration.

Lastly, you do realise that Windows simply refuses to recognise partitions other than FAT/NTFS! This is simply accepted and we move on! OTOH, Linux bends over backwards by recognising most if not all filesystems, and tries very hard to work with them. But, just like Windows, Linux has its own "native" filesystem in order to write changes, create new files, etc. I can assure you, it is *not FAT or NTFS*.
So, if you want to have a "persistent" Linux rather than a "live" in FAT32(*), you need to create a special "persistence container" file. Again, if you want this to co-exist with Windows, prepare for frustration, as Windows might simply refuse to install to a "removable media". Some Linux distros like SuSE also don't work well with removable media as well.

(*) TBH, NTFS will cause you grief at some point or the other. Here's a brief pointer.

This is a long and winding road. Good luck.

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Old 08-22-2013, 07:42 AM   #9
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just use win7 to make it's own partition and then carve the diskup like a regular dual boot install

I haven't tried installing win7 to a stick, but...?
 
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Why not create two partitions? The only way to find out if your windows install image will run from FAT32 is to try it. Well, I guess you could go to the microsoft or some windows site, I would expect you would get better info there. Since it is not an actual windows install but just the installation image, it might work. Found the site below, use at your own risk:

http://www.techtree.com/content/feat...windows-8.html
I don't see how your linked article talks about creating two partitions. But thanks. It is just the common way to make a Windows (7 as well) install bootable from USB.
 
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YUMI is excellent, but yes I have heard of a more sophisticated one. Here is a review/tutorial of the tool. Use it, and if it turns out to be indeed better, then do let us know here, so we may recommend it specifically to others as well.
Do you mean the MultiSystem tool? I may give it a try in the future but if I am correct, YUMI works with Windows+Linux on FAT32 (but didn't go through with the whole process yet).
 
Old 08-25-2013, 09:58 AM   #12
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Do you mean the MultiSystem tool? I may give it a try in the future but if I am correct,
Yes the multisystem, since your question was that you use YUMI already and if there were better ones.

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YUMI works with Windows+Linux on FAT32 (but didn't go through with the whole process yet).
Not sure what your question is, but I'll second guess you anyway. As I keep telling you, you will hit a wall at some point. From 7 onwards, Windows needs NTFS (and won't work on FAT) and Linux cannot be installed on NTFS. Basically Linux installs treats USB as just another partition to be installed into while Windows is very likely to get into a knot over "removable media alert". In Linux world, SuSE also doesn't work well as a "portable OS".

In my view, these two are big walls you are going to hit at some point.

Try installing Windows 7 on FAT 32 usb first. I think that'll be one of the biggest hurdles to overcome.
 
  


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