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View Poll Results: What is the package management tool you find the most convinient (and why)?
pkgtools: Slackware 19 36.54%
apt: Debian 15 28.85%
zypp: Opensuse 1 1.92%
yum: Fedora, RH 10 19.23%
urpmi: Mageia 0 0%
slapt-get: Slackware based 1 1.92%
equo: Sabayon 0 0%
pacman: Arch 6 11.54%
conary: rpath 0 0%
pisi: Pardus 0 0%
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Old 02-11-2013, 07:46 PM   #1
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What is the package management tool of your choice


List taken from distrowatch.
Some tools were ommited on purpose by this posts author.
 
Old 02-11-2013, 08:23 PM   #2
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Why pkgtools: More control. A longer post about this is here

My main concern for creating this poll is that i find that package management tools used by most distributions are too complex to the point of being unusable, even after you get familiar with them. I'm talking about apt and rpm. Arch's pacman is a noteable exception.
 
Old 02-11-2013, 09:10 PM   #3
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I like, and voted for, apt. Debian's tools are robust and not hard to use at all. If someone like me who spent years and years on Windows can learn to use a tool like apt and dpkg then it's not hard to use.

I remember the old rpm that Redhat used to use back late last century and I could never get a grip on it. I've used yum a couple of times but it doesn't "feel" quite right to me.

I've read a little bit about pisi and it looks promising so I may give it a go oneday.

I've never used the arch tool simply becaus I've never been able to install arch. For some reason it just doesn't like my older machines and they are the machines I test stuff out on before I use it on my main machine.

EDIT: I'll just add that if it wasn't for Debian (being the basis for Ubuntu etc) I'd still probably be using Windows. I have a copy of the old Red Hat 7 and it would install but never worked after that. Fedora works but doesn't feel right. Debian, and it's derivatives, gave me a viable option to Windows that I could use and learn on and most importantly that worked with very little tweaking from (what was back then) a complete and utter novice.

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Old 02-11-2013, 09:22 PM   #4
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pkgtools: Very simple and straightforward package format, total control without the hassle of automatic dependency resolution.
On non-Slackware distributions I prefer apt, I am used to it from my Ubuntu/Debian days and the mix of apt-get/apt-cache/apt-file is very powerful.
 
Old 02-11-2013, 09:39 PM   #5
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No apologies to 55020 and sahko,
slapt-get!
Why? Probably familiarity, having learned linux with debian-based distros before switching over to Salix and/or Slackel.
I'll concede good points regarding dep-checking, but won't win me over.
 
Old 02-11-2013, 10:18 PM   #6
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I voted for pkgtools just because in general slackpkg and pkgtools have presented no problems since i have been using slackware, about a year now i guess. I have yet to run into a serious dependency problem with the included software, the nvidia drivers and a kernel update being the exception. Which you can hardly blame on slackware.
I have hated virtually every graphical package management tool i have used.
 
Old 02-12-2013, 03:02 AM   #7
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Even if i am slackware-lover, i like yum. Simple to use and good options
 
Old 02-12-2013, 08:20 AM   #8
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Originally Posted by fogpipe View Post
I have hated virtually every graphical package management tool i have used.
I agree. With the exception of synaptic.
 
Old 02-12-2013, 11:23 AM   #9
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zypper, rpm, apt-get, yum don't matter to me.
It's all the same to me, "under the Hood"
 
Old 02-12-2013, 11:34 AM   #10
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I think the real answer to this is "the one I've used the most and got used to"! I've used 9 of the 10 listed and only had trouble with 2. The man page for pacman was incomplete the last time I tried to use it, and it took two experienced users of Foresight Linux to sort out why I couldn't get Conary to work.
 
Old 02-12-2013, 05:34 PM   #11
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The reason i dislike apt is that it expects me to do the package management for it.
If i am the one who does the management manually i prefer sticking to pkgtools kthx.
See http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=60602 & http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=60608 especially bugsbunny's reply which basically says that apt isn't capable of doing what i want it to do.

This is where apt fails short.
edit: Additionally you have to install a gazillion of other utilities to achieve fundamental functionally, like listing orphans etc.

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Old 02-12-2013, 05:38 PM   #12
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I can't answer this because there are too many variables. For example, apt with one central repository is quite different than apt with several unofficial repositories.
 
Old 02-13-2013, 01:46 AM   #13
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Ahhh. I think we missed this in the Poll for Members Choice Awards 2012.
Anyways, apt since I use Ubuntu.

But, what about others like dpkg and GUI front-ends like Synaptic
 
Old 02-14-2013, 06:13 PM   #14
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pacman, most definitely. Zypper/Apt are the bane of my existence when I use them (in no small part for the length of apt-get update && apt-get upgrade vs. pacman -Syu)
 
Old 02-15-2013, 02:00 AM   #15
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I voted for Debian's apt, but Arch's pacman tool is great as well.
 
  


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