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View Poll Results: Were you an early Linux adopter?
I started with Caldera,Red Hat, and Mandrake about 10 years ago, wasn't smart enough to compile, (required on all additions) didn't get much out of Linux till it became dummy friendly. always liked it, even more now. running Mepis, Mint, xp.
I don't recall when I first started downloading the Slackware floppies over
my 300 baud connection that I was lucky to get for only $30 a month. I would
install it, try it, learn a bit and then trash it. A few weeks later I'd get
curious and install it, try it and learn a bit more.
The time I do recall is when I set up my own LAN and wanted to share my
network connection. Microsoft had a special deal where I got a day of
training and a 5 user license to NT4 Small Business for only $99. I was
sold! I set it up and was able to share files and printers. And it was
the first I was able to share the Internet connection. Only one problem.
I needed to hang up the phone manually every time the connection was dropped.
Microsoft came to the rescue...for only $200 I could buy an updated version
that would make the modem hang up properly.
I mentioned this to a friend, and he asked why I didn't use diald in Linux.
I grabbed the stack of floppies and installed Linux again. And diald did
the trick. I was able to simply sit down at any workstation and automatically
connect to the Internet with no manual intervention. I was happy, but I
missed the shared folders and printers, until I heard about Samba. It took
a couple of hours to set up, but I haven't looked back ever since. I remembered
thinking that I'll probably always have a Linux server around. Little did I
know that it wouldn't be just one.
Well, thanks everyone for the stories and votes. I admit I'm disappointed didn't hear much from very early adopters (e.g., people who were onboard at Torvalds first usenet post.) Feel free to drop in a note anytime and I'll remain subscribed to my thread.
Well, thanks everyone for the stories and votes. I admit I'm disappointed didn't hear much from very early adopters (e.g., people who were onboard at Torvalds first usenet post.) Feel free to drop in a note anytime and I'll remain subscribed to my thread.
My employer chose Yggdrasil and then early Red Hat linux to use as an embedded RTOS (real time OS) for an industrial instrument. Using a serial port and PPP we could make a "network connection" from something hand held and accomplish service and maintenance tasks. We could also use 10baseT to access the web server, ftp files and software updates and all manner of remote operation.
Internally, we adapted a serial port driver to operate I-squared-C device control bus for stepper motors and solenoids.
Our user interface was a touch screen and a TK/TCL gui.
I think that's all pretty good for 1994-95...
~~~ 0;-Dan
PS/ I could not discover how to vote in the poll. (grin) still learning.
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My employer chose Yggdrasil and then early Red Hat linux to use as an embedded RTOS (real time OS) for an industrial instrument. Using a serial port and PPP we could make a "network connection" from something hand held and accomplish service and maintenance tasks. We could also use 10baseT to access the web server, ftp files and software updates and all manner of remote operation.
Internally, we adapted a serial port driver to operate I-squared-C device control bus for stepper motors and solenoids.
Our user interface was a touch screen and a TK/TCL gui.
I think that's all pretty good for 1994-95...
~~~ 0;-Dan
PS/ I could not discover how to vote in the poll. (grin) still learning.
First Linux I used was Mandrake back in 2000 after that I did not get back into it until I was working doing Microsoft support in 2002 and then I used Knoppix and then Slackware.
@exvor: that brings me back! The first linux install I used daily(when I 86ed Windows altogether) was Mandrake 7.1...I got it from a magazine, Maximum Linux, I think...now I'm using Slackware 13- it's come a long way!
Okay, I guess I need to touch on the "before the GUI" component of the poll, since my poll is so brilliantly composed and precisely worded in all other respects (*snicker*).
Possibly where I originally got the idea was Wikipedia, which indicated in the "History of Linux" article that the XFree86 project contributed a GUI to Linux in 1994, but does not provide any references. Another timeline I found online indicated that the X386 project (later XFree86) started working with Linux in 1992, and XFree86 itself was actually released in 1993. On the XFree86 web page it is indicated that the project has been "producing" an implementation of the X windowing system since 1992, though they are not more specific on that page about how much they accomplished at that time.
So if Torvalds starts putting Linux together in 1991, and really brings it together in 1992, then I guess there isn't /much/ time where Linux doesn't have a GUI. But there is some time... and if you used Linux that far back then you really were an _early_ adopter.
Maybe Torvalds will take another look at this thread and clear things up for us...
I started programming in C on Unix way back in 1988 and then in 1997 I started with RedHat 4.2 Linux.
But during those days the GUI was considered to be for 'kids' who play games - and whether or not X was available or not, I hardly used it.
Windows 3.11 for workgroups was not such a great GUI anyway and so we went back to DOS 6.2 if we needed some serious work done before we got into Linux in a big way.
Same with sound card on a PC - we used to say - it is to play games.
More to the point with the 80486 PCs with a 4MB RAM was not much hardware power to run X on Linux - so X was used more on Workstations which were used for CAD stations etc.
I started programming in C on Unix way back in 1988 and then in 1997 I started with RedHat 4.2 Linux.
But during those days the GUI was considered to be for 'kids' who play games - and whether or not X was available or not, I hardly used it.
Windows 3.11 for workgroups was not such a great GUI anyway and so we went back to DOS 6.2 if we needed some serious work done before we got into Linux in a big way.
Same with sound card on a PC - we used to say - it is to play games.
More to the point with the 80486 PCs with a 4MB RAM was not much hardware power to run X on Linux - so X was used more on Workstations which were used for CAD stations etc.
LOL - DOS 6.2, best version ever. Prior to 6.22, the 'whoops' when they removed the stolen Stack code, right?
I am a bit surprised you were coding professionally with 4MB, though - I think most x86 type machines I administered at the time had 16MB (and the DX4-75s had even up to 32MB IIRC)
I could just be remembering wrong, since I was working with GIS (ESRI stuff) in the early 90s, and then at a huge corporation in the late 90s
In regards to the quote from the X stuff you guys need to remember that the Linux kernel is completely independent of the GNU tools. Alot of what people consider the Linux operating system is actually from the GNU people who were using the BSD kernel. This might account for why there is confusion on when Linux had a GUI as it may not have been implemented into the kernel yet at these times. Remember also that wikipedia is a resource that anyone anywhere can update and there is vandals who purposely put incorrect info (this is why you cannot use it on essays or term papers) so its not always accurate. I would check around on the XFree86 site for info on when it was started.
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