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Old 03-10-2015, 08:01 PM   #1
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Unbootable System


My laptop is totally screwed. I had Linux Mint on it, and I had a partition with that Ubuntu Unity or whatever it is on it as well. I deleted the partition with Unity on it in gparted and grew the partition with Mint on it to take over the empty space, and ever since my computer refuses to boot up.

I have a "live" DVD with AVLinux, which is what I want (for now) on the whole damn computer. I know the DVD works because I've started up my girlfriend's computer with it and it worked fine.

When I start up MY laptop with the AVLinux DVD in it (or not, for that matter) all I can ever get is the GRUB prompt. I've tried to get grub to just load the kernel from the DVD, at least, but it tells me that it can't find the 'kernel' command. Every Web page I've looked at tells me it exists but MY 'grub' can't find it. Same with 'root' and any other relevant command.

Am I just screwed here? Or, to be accurate, is my girlfriend just screwed here? 'Cause if I really have to I guess I'll just install AVLinux on HER computer and get on about recording some music. Seriously, I've been at this for days and I can't find the answer. If any of you know off the top of your heads how to fix this problem I would greatly appreciate any advice you can offer.


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Old 03-10-2015, 08:39 PM   #2
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Could you post the text of any error messages that this box throws? It could well help.

It sounds as if, in resizing the partition, something went wrong. That's rare, but it's always a possibility; that's why a backup of crucial data is generally recommended before resizing partitions.

If you have not tried a grub repair, it's probably worth a shot. http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/...ntu-wont-boot/

I would also try booting to a Live CD/DVD of something else (Mint maybe) to see whether there is something about the AVLinux boot process that is problematic with that hardware. If you can boot to a Live CD, before doing anything else, back up any crucial data to external media.

A bit of a hint: A more informative subject line, perhaps "Unable To Boot after Resizing a Partition," might help persons who can help you find this thread more easily.

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Old 03-10-2015, 08:41 PM   #3
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kernel and root were commands of grub legacy(0.98). Grub2 uses 'linux' instead of 'kernel' and there is no 'root' command. You can instead set grub environment with 'set root=(hd1,msdos1)' or whatever you like.

You can try any other livecd to see if it boots.
 
Old 03-10-2015, 10:20 PM   #4
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OK, I just downloaded Mint again and burned it to a DVD on my girlfriend's computer, and MY computer WILL start up from it, so that's a good sign anyway. I still really want to either get AVLinux on the stupid thing or at least get Mint set up for audio production, but who knows? I'm so sick of messing with technology that doesn't work worth a crap that I could easily just throw every computer in the house out to the freakin' yard and be done with all of it
 
Old 03-10-2015, 10:34 PM   #5
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Not that I care about AVLinux in particular -- I just want to make some music on my stupid computer, and it doesn't seem to be working out any other way
 
Old 03-10-2015, 10:41 PM   #6
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Thank you frankbell & veerain. I've lost my cool head on this project so I appreciate you lending me yours
 
Old 03-10-2015, 10:50 PM   #7
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It still doesn't want to start up from the AVLinux DVD even though this other computer sitting right beside it did. That's frustrating, to say the least. I guess I'll have to just install all the audio software before anything else and hope for the best.
 
Old 03-10-2015, 11:34 PM   #8
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It still doesn't want to start up from the AVLinux DVD even though this other computer sitting right beside it did. That's frustrating, to say the least. I guess I'll have to just install all the audio software before anything else and hope for the best.
Hi...

Hope your girlfriend is ok with letting you do stuff with her computer.

It's possible the issue has nothing to do with your copy of GRUB but something about your hardware that AVLinux doesn't like or isn't compatible with. Could you open a terminal and post the readout for...

Code:
lspci -nnk
Please omit nothing from the code or readout. This might help someone figure out what's going on.

Regards...
 
Old 03-11-2015, 04:19 AM   #9
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Possibles.

You deleted Ubuntu which was your boot loading distro, therefore grub can't find its files.

Your computer is not set up to boot from usb/cdrom before the hard drive, which prevents AVLinux from booting.

Unlikely, but possible.
Your computer doesn't boot from dvd,(AVLinux DVD).

Edit: Is your computer using UEFI or BIOS to boot.

Last edited by fatmac; 03-11-2015 at 04:21 AM.
 
Old 03-11-2015, 05:25 AM   #10
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You could give a try to the boot-repair-disk, it's a live cd which can fix many boot issues. Here is the link:

http://sourceforge.net/p/boot-repair-cd/home/Home/

Edit: You want to install AVLinux along with Mint on your laptop's HD, and have dual boot? Is that correct?

Last edited by manu-tm; 03-11-2015 at 06:18 AM.
 
Old 03-11-2015, 08:45 AM   #11
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Here's the output from the lspci command on the troublemaking computer ...

Code:
fuzzy@fuzzy ~ $ lspci -nnk
00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family DRAM Controller [8086:0104] (rev 09)
    Subsystem: Toshiba America Info Systems Device [1179:ff1e]
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0116] (rev 09)
    Subsystem: Toshiba America Info Systems Device [1179:fb20]
    Kernel driver in use: i915
00:14.0 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family USB xHCI Host Controller [8086:1e31] (rev 04)
    Subsystem: Toshiba America Info Systems Device [1179:ff1e]
    Kernel driver in use: xhci_hcd
00:16.0 Communication controller [0780]: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family MEI Controller #1 [8086:1e3a] (rev 04)
    Subsystem: Toshiba America Info Systems Device [1179:ff1e]
    Kernel driver in use: mei_me
00:1a.0 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller #2 [8086:1e2d] (rev 04)
    Subsystem: Toshiba America Info Systems Device [1179:ff1e]
    Kernel driver in use: ehci-pci
00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller [8086:1e20] (rev 04)
    Subsystem: Toshiba America Info Systems Device [1179:ff1e]
    Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
00:1c.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 1 [8086:1e10] (rev c4)
    Kernel driver in use: pcieport
00:1c.1 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 2 [8086:1e12] (rev c4)
    Kernel driver in use: pcieport
00:1d.0 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller #1 [8086:1e26] (rev 04)
    Subsystem: Toshiba America Info Systems Device [1179:ff1e]
    Kernel driver in use: ehci-pci
00:1f.0 ISA bridge [0601]: Intel Corporation HM76 Express Chipset LPC Controller [8086:1e59] (rev 04)
    Subsystem: Toshiba America Info Systems Device [1179:ff1e]
    Kernel driver in use: lpc_ich
00:1f.2 SATA controller [0106]: Intel Corporation 7 Series Chipset Family 6-port SATA Controller [AHCI mode] [8086:1e03] (rev 04)
    Subsystem: Toshiba America Info Systems Device [1179:ff1e]
    Kernel driver in use: ahci
00:1f.3 SMBus [0c05]: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family SMBus Controller [8086:1e22] (rev 04)
    Subsystem: Toshiba America Info Systems Device [1179:ff1e]
01:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Qualcomm Atheros AR8162 Fast Ethernet [1969:1090] (rev 10)
    Subsystem: Toshiba America Info Systems Device [1179:ff1e]
    Kernel driver in use: alx
02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter [10ec:8176] (rev 01)
    Subsystem: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device [10ec:8212]
    Kernel driver in use: rtl8192ce
And running the same command on the computer that WILL start up from the AVLinux DVD ...

Code:
fuzzy@HP-ProBook-4430s ~ $ lspci -nnk
00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family DRAM Controller [8086:0104] (rev 09)
	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device [103c:167e]
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0106] (rev 09)
	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device [103c:167e]
	Kernel driver in use: i915
00:16.0 Communication controller [0780]: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family MEI Controller #1 [8086:1c3a] (rev 04)
	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device [103c:167e]
	Kernel driver in use: mei_me
00:1a.0 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller #2 [8086:1c2d] (rev 04)
	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device [103c:167e]
	Kernel driver in use: ehci-pci
00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller [8086:1c20] (rev 04)
	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device [103c:167e]
	Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
00:1c.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 1 [8086:1c10] (rev b4)
	Kernel driver in use: pcieport
00:1c.1 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 2 [8086:1c12] (rev b4)
	Kernel driver in use: pcieport
00:1c.2 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 3 [8086:1c14] (rev b4)
	Kernel driver in use: pcieport
00:1c.3 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 4 [8086:1c16] (rev b4)
	Kernel driver in use: pcieport
00:1c.5 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 6 [8086:1c1a] (rev b4)
	Kernel driver in use: pcieport
00:1c.7 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 8 [8086:1c1e] (rev b4)
	Kernel driver in use: pcieport
00:1d.0 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller #1 [8086:1c26] (rev 04)
	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device [103c:167e]
	Kernel driver in use: ehci-pci
00:1f.0 ISA bridge [0601]: Intel Corporation HM65 Express Chipset Family LPC Controller [8086:1c49] (rev 04)
	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device [103c:167e]
	Kernel driver in use: lpc_ich
00:1f.2 SATA controller [0106]: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family 6 port SATA AHCI Controller [8086:1c03] (rev 04)
	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device [103c:167e]
	Kernel driver in use: ahci
23:00.0 System peripheral [0880]: JMicron Technology Corp. SD/MMC Host Controller [197b:2392] (rev 30)
	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device [103c:167e]
	Kernel driver in use: sdhci-pci
23:00.2 SD Host controller [0805]: JMicron Technology Corp. Standard SD Host Controller [197b:2391] (rev 30)
	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device [103c:167e]
23:00.3 System peripheral [0880]: JMicron Technology Corp. MS Host Controller [197b:2393] (rev 30)
	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device [103c:167e]
	Kernel driver in use: jmb38x_ms
24:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Qualcomm Atheros AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) [168c:002b] (rev 01)
	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device [103c:1461]
	Kernel driver in use: ath9k
25:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller [10ec:8168] (rev 06)
	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device [103c:167e]
	Kernel driver in use: r8169
26:00.0 USB controller [0c03]: NEC Corporation uPD720200 USB 3.0 Host Controller [1033:0194] (rev 04)
	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device [103c:167e]
	Kernel driver in use: xhci_hcd
 
Old 03-11-2015, 08:52 AM   #12
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Possibles.

You deleted Ubuntu which was your boot loading distro, therefore grub can't find its files.

Your computer is not set up to boot from usb/cdrom before the hard drive, which prevents AVLinux from booting.

Unlikely, but possible.
Your computer doesn't boot from dvd,(AVLinux DVD).

Edit: Is your computer using UEFI or BIOS to boot.
It's BIOS. It's set up to check the CD drive, USB ports, and THEN the hard disk. Within the last year and a half or so it's been through Fedora, Mint & Ubuntu & started up from their DVD's OK. It's got Mint back on it now, so it's functioning again.
 
Old 03-11-2015, 08:57 AM   #13
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I've tried to get grub to just load the kernel from the DVD, at least, but it tells me that it can't find the 'kernel' command.
AFAIK, grub won't load a kernel from a DVD. It will load a kernel from your HD.

Again, it's not very clear to me what you're trying to achieve.

Edit: If you get this grub prompt, I think you're actually booting from your HD.

Now, could you explicitly and precisely state what you want to do, ie installing which OS on your HD, having one or two OSes on your HD, or only using a live DVD, or ?

Last edited by manu-tm; 03-11-2015 at 09:08 AM.
 
Old 03-11-2015, 09:13 AM   #14
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You could give a try to the boot-repair-disk, it's a live cd which can fix many boot issues. Here is the link:

http://sourceforge.net/p/boot-repair-cd/home/Home/

Edit: You want to install AVLinux along with Mint on your laptop's HD, and have dual boot? Is that correct?
I don't think I like dual-booting any more. The end goal here is just to get a low-latency kernel installed and running in the hopes that Audacity will behave itself. There's other stuff that's necessary for audio programs, too. The best page I've been able to find on the subject is right here.

I was trying to install a low-latency kernel per the instructions on the page I just linked to when things went south. I installed it on the Linux Mint partition of my hard drive but it would never show up in the grub menu when I started up. I tried installing it on the Ubuntu partition and it didn't show up then, either. At that point I decided the dual-boot setup was messing things up for me somehow and deleted the Ubuntu partition. I'm pretty sure fatmac is correct about that having screwed up the grub config files and trashing the whole computer.

Now that it's back up and running I'm gonna try the low-latency kernel again. I'm convinced that it's necessary for audio production, because in general the whole audio system so far has just been royally messed up. I can't tell exactly why but I suspect that some of these audio programs like to take over configuration files for themselves a lot.
 
Old 03-11-2015, 09:39 AM   #15
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I don't think I like dual-booting any more. The end goal here is just to get a low-latency kernel installed and running in the hopes that Audacity will behave itself. There's other stuff that's necessary for audio programs, too. The best page I've been able to find on the subject is right here.

I was trying to install a low-latency kernel per the instructions on the page I just linked to when things went south. I installed it on the Linux Mint partition of my hard drive but it would never show up in the grub menu when I started up. I tried installing it on the Ubuntu partition and it didn't show up then, either. At that point I decided the dual-boot setup was messing things up for me somehow and deleted the Ubuntu partition. I'm pretty sure fatmac is correct about that having screwed up the grub config files and trashing the whole computer.

Now that it's back up and running I'm gonna try the low-latency kernel again. I'm convinced that it's necessary for audio production, because in general the whole audio system so far has just been royally messed up. I can't tell exactly why but I suspect that some of these audio programs like to take over configuration files for themselves a lot.
OK, I understand better

I still don't know if you are running Mint or AVLinux but, as AVLinux is using a low-latency kernel, it is indeed what you need for audio processing stuff. But could you just tell us if you have actually installed AVLinux on your HD? Or are you just running an AVLinux live session? What OS is back up and running?

About grub problems you mentioned earlier, boot-repair-disk is definitely for you (well, in case you still need that), ie it will fix grub-related things.

Edit: Just read the kernel section at the end of the page you mentioned, I understand now you're installing a low-latency kernel on Mint.

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