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Old 09-02-2003, 04:23 PM   #1
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Try to start Knoppix but can't type equal sign


I have heard about Knoppix many times so I decided to give it a try today, but I have a strange problem.

I read that you need to type knoppix lang=us at the boot prompt to start it. Trouble is, I can't type the equal sign(=). When I hit the key where the equal sign is supposed to be, I get an apostrophe instead. I noticed some of the other keys are wrong also. Is this because it is meant for a keyboard based on a different language?

The funniest thing though is that it doesn't matter what I type there. If I hit enter it will continue to boot succesfully, but not in english.

Can anybody shed some light on this?
 
Old 09-02-2003, 04:29 PM   #2
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Keyb layout is still undetermined at that point.
Use ascii code, Alt+61. This one must work.

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Old 09-02-2003, 04:32 PM   #3
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Thanks.

I will give it a try.
 
Old 09-02-2003, 04:41 PM   #4
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Nope, didn't work. This is kind of funny actually!

I have found and can type every other symbol but the one I need.
 
Old 09-04-2009, 10:07 AM   #5
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Exact same problem. Solved!

Try shift-zero. Instead of a right parenthesis, I got an equal sign. I was then able to do 'knoppix lang=us' and an English desktop came up.

I was having the exact same problem. The equal key (=) always comes out as an apostrophe ('). Alt-61 did not work for me either. When I booted normally, I got a Spanish desktop.
 
Old 09-04-2009, 11:34 AM   #6
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Your going to have to "find" it as your using an alternate keyboard layout. =( I had that too with with the knoppix cd. I think there is an english iso, might be worth just getting a different iso.... Either way I've had the = key show up as various different keys back when knoppix was in testing (that was a couple years ago) alas I don't remember how I found the = key other than random typing. Shift keys might also be different... good luck.
 
Old 09-04-2009, 08:41 PM   #7
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If you use Knoppix V.6.1 it's a live cdand should start up with no problem.
 
Old 09-04-2009, 08:52 PM   #8
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You could always extarct the iso to a folder and edit the isolinux.cfg
KNOPPIX still doesn't provide a graphical boot menu?

you want a graphical boot menu for KNOPPIX like here
http://multidistro.com/hammer/fluxboxp.html

then, you can press TAB and edit the boot cheatcodes
or you can edit the isolinux.cfg/syslinux.cfg

you gotta use vesamenu.c32 and a new version of syslinux/isolinux to get that
you want me to make a good boot menu for your knoppix cd?
what version you using 6.0.1?
or what?

it''l be like a sub-5mb download
and includes a script to recreate the iso image

it'll just be a "boot" folder
and just add its contents to yur boot folder, etc
you game?
 
Old 09-04-2009, 09:33 PM   #9
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You could always extarct the iso to a folder and edit the isolinux.cfg
KNOPPIX still doesn't provide a graphical boot menu?

you want a graphical boot menu for KNOPPIX like here
http://multidistro.com/hammer/fluxboxp.html

then, you can press TAB and edit the boot cheatcodes
or you can edit the isolinux.cfg/syslinux.cfg

you gotta use vesamenu.c32 and a new version of syslinux/isolinux to get that
you want me to make a good boot menu for your knoppix cd?
what version you using 6.0.1?
or what?

it''l be like a sub-5mb download
and includes a script to recreate the iso image

it'll just be a "boot" folder
and just add its contents to yur boot folder, etc
you game?
If he extracts it, edits it, and then makes a new iso he might get things working decently. Though that takes time, effort, and knowledge which isn't all that hard. Though the boot codes... If he doesn't know the location of the = key itself changing the boot codes might not be all that easy... IE keyboard=US (I don't remember the exact code)... but without the = key he can't change some of those boot codes.
 
Old 09-04-2009, 09:52 PM   #10
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the = sign should already be ther in the isolinux.cfg though
just edit it without deleting the = sign
you could also copy/paste the = sign right?
copy/paste from a txt file or webpage to the isolinux.cfg?

knoppix bootcodes
http://www.knoppix.net/wiki/Cheat_Codes

just copy/paste those too
 
Old 09-04-2009, 10:00 PM   #11
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Quote:
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the = sign should already be ther in the isolinux.cfg though
just edit it without deleting the = sign
you could also copy/paste the = sign right?
copy/paste from a txt file or webpage to the isolinux.cfg?

knoppix bootcodes
http://www.knoppix.net/wiki/Cheat_Codes

just copy/paste those too
lets say he wants 'xkeyboard=us'.... How is he going to copy and paste it after the bios posts, then the cd boots, and... he has nothing in paste? Infact I don't think boot from cd has paste... How do you highlight to paste? If you boot from cd and get to the : prompt and don't know the = key you are screwed when you need it. You can't just paste after a reboot, the bios doesn't even understand that. That's why I said if he edits the iso maybe... but he's going to have to edit it so the default layout is US.... What you might be getting at is a custom boot code, that doesn't require a = sign... Like making one that is just kbdus... keyboard us... Then he doesn't need the = sign, but the = sign is given for any variable that has multiple meanings. such as keyboard = what? what could mean us/uk/fr/sp/gr.... If he can't do = he can't do anything unless he A)knows where it is or B) edits the iso directly.
 
Old 09-04-2009, 10:33 PM   #12
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obviously I meant copy/paste to the isolinux.cfg and edit it

thers no reason he shouldn't customize the iso
its not remastering
its simple editing of the files
 
  


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