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kemplej 01-25-2004 11:50 AM

LINUX+ Certifications
 
OK I'm looking to start taking certification classes for some certifications and I came across one called Linux+. Does anyone know where I can info on this and info on places to that offer it? Does anyone have any good links on any certification information on other stuff that they would recomend to someone fresh out of college to take?

DrOzz 01-25-2004 11:56 AM

well i am going to be writing my linux+ certification next month, and the company that offers it is CompTIA also if you go to Prometrics site you select "information technology" and then select your state/province in the drop down list below that, and then pick the cert from the list on the next page, and then you will see what places are certified to give these tests in your area ... so whenever you wanna book it, just go back to prometrics site and book the test, and you just select one of the testing centers in your area .. you'll also need a form of credit to pay for the test, or if you go to the testing center you may just be able to buy a voucher number, and when you are booking the test, just type in the voucher on the confirmation screen at the end of the booking ...
hope thats the info you were looking for :D

Crito 01-25-2004 04:30 PM

I've been reading a lot of comments from people who've taken the test. Everyone mentions how hardware-centric it is. One poor guy with a masters in computer science failed on his first try for that very reason. On the other hand, a kid who likes to build and overclock his own machines passed it on the first try. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure the guy with the masters degree could program circles around the kid, but that's not the test's focus. It's an administraton test.

DrOzz 01-25-2004 04:59 PM

the fact of the matter is, if you know your stuff you pass and if you dont' you don't pass .. plain and simple ... just because some d00d has a BSc degree doesn't mean he is/isn't quailified enough to pass the cert ... i don't know how universitys work in your area, but i know one thing that in the many universitys i know of in canada, linux is not in any way shape or form involved in any BSc degree, so having a BSc has nothing to do with knowing your basic linux knowledge to pass this cert ...
don't get me wrong, i know this cert has some hardware related questions, and i am not denying that, but all i want to comment on is, just because some guy got a degree in university doesn't mean he is going to pass this cert ... and just because some kid likes to build computers definetaly doesn't mean he is going to pass this cert ... cause yes there is a few hardware related questions, but you need a 655 out of 900 with 92 questions being asked, and just knowing how to fix and build a computer is not going to get you a pass on this exam ...
and also why shouldn't these hardware related questions be on here? example 12% of this exam is installation based.. you do have to know the machines hardware correct? then there is troublshooting and maintaining hardware which is 19% of the examination ... you will have to know how this stuff is done too .... i just think people have the train of thought that since its a linux certification that all you need to know is how to type commands and what they do ... which is incorrect ... the whole cert entails everything such as maintaining your hardware and your software .. oh and only 18% is for administrations purposes :p

Crito 01-25-2004 06:54 PM

Section 4, managing users, groups and daemons is 18% of it, but planning, installation, configuration, maintenance and troubleshooting are all administrative tasks. In any case, my point was you could pass this exam without knowing how to write a "hello world" program in C. :p

Section % of Examination
1.0 Planning the Implementation 4%
2.0 Installation 12%
3.0 Configuration 15%
4.0 Administration 18%
5.0 System Maintenance 14%
6.0 Troubleshooting 18%
7.0 Identify, Install, and Maintain System Hardware 19%
TOTAL 100%

DrOzz 01-25-2004 07:27 PM

what does this have do with coding in C ? this isn't a C programming class...its a cert on knowing basics of linux....
and if your point was to say you can pass without knowing how to type main(){printf("hello world);return0;} then why are you talking about some d00d that has a BSc and some kid that can put a computer together .... i don't see what the relation is?
the actual point of the matter is, is that no, this isn't a joke of a cert and no not anyone can pass it, especially not a person that all they know how to do is put a computer together ...
and if you wanna start taking every little aspect of a computer and calling it an administrative task, then me typing this message to you is an administrative task ...

anyways thats enough for me concerning this topic ... you can think what you wish, but your stubborn to think that any idiot can pass this cert ... so i made my point and if you -still think a 3 year old can pass it, then so be it, i won't try to make you realize the truth anymore ...

and kemplej i hope you don't take the points at hand presented by crito as they are just silly, and i wouldn't want to see you take it as lightly as crito explains it , otherwise all you would have to do, forget about studying, and go to the testing center and book a test and pass ...... so, you will have to work at this especially if all you know how to do is put a computer together :p:D
and i'll recommend the book called "Linux+ Guide to Linux Certification" its an official book recognized by CompTIA for dealing with their examination ... the ISBN number is 0-619-13004-0 if you actually are interested in it ...

Crito 01-25-2004 08:51 PM

To kemplej: The second edition of Sybex's "Linux+ Study Guide" by Roderick W. Smith covers all the hardware stuff other people who have taken the test complained about. Don't buy the first edition by mistake.

To DrOzz: If my saying that a person with years of UNIX experience and a master's degree in CS failed gave you the impression I actually meant any idiot could pass it, then I'm sorry. The fact remains, however, that this is an admin test.

DrOzz 01-25-2004 09:18 PM

ok Crito sure thing ...

p.s. i like how this BSc major now has years of UNIX experience :confused:

Whitehat 01-25-2004 10:28 PM

I took and passed Linux+ in 2002.

It was very straight forward. I used an Exam Cram book to help with studying. It wasn't that hard. It pretty much is sorta like a "entry level" linux test.

However, "entry level" may mean something different to everyone ;)

Peace,
Whitehat

kemplej 01-26-2004 03:35 PM

thanks for the great responses all of you. I have another question for those who have taken it or know someone who has taken it. Would you feel like its worthwhile to invest the money to take it? Would it help a good deal of amount in the job market?

kemplej 01-26-2004 03:53 PM

Suggestions needed for certifications...
 
Ok I am a recent graduate with a AA in Computer Networking. I'm wanting to start taking some certifications testing but it turns out there are alot more then what I first figured lol. Does anyone have any suggestions on ones to take that could help me in real life by getting jobs/promoting/myself etc. Basicly if you were just out of college what would you do in my place?

Thanks!

trickykid 01-26-2004 04:07 PM

To tell you the truth and after considering many, I'd have to say the one probably most worthwhile is the RHCE which is from Redhat.

One day possibly I will take it once I find the time and money.

Another one most likely is the LPI which is probably one of the others that is taken more seriously in the job market.

[edit]I've also merged your two threads which are basically discussing the same topic. Regards.[/edit]


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