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Old 01-02-2007, 04:43 AM   #1
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Sound problem


Hi, i have FC3 but there is no sound and i cannot even control the sound volume control panel, it will have msg like "sorry no mixer element or device found." But i check the alsa RPM been installed. I have alsa-lib-1.0.6-8.FC3 and alsa-utils-1.0.63 rpm. Also command not found when i type 'alsaconf'. No /usr/sbin/alsaconf folder also. Pls advise how to fix it. Thanks

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Old 01-02-2007, 04:57 AM   #2
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Have you searched these forums? There are a great many threads dealing with similar issues. Of course, the exact error would be useful... but you will learn how to provide enough information for anyone to actually help you.

This dosn't seem to be the usual early FC volume=off issue... what is this sound card? How have you tried to get sound going? (aplay, alsaconf, anthing in the syslog?)

How about:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...hreadid=341087

And, of course, FC3 is legacy now... though it is still supported by the fedora legacy project (just). I recall there were a great many problems with FC3 and FC4 was better mannered. (The even numbered releases seem to be like that...)
 
Old 01-02-2007, 09:18 AM   #3
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When i run alsaconfig and alsaconf, it return command not found.When i run soundcard detection it only detect my modem, no sound card driver. This sound card is ADI Soundmax. The article issue wasn;t quite similar as my sound never work before. There are no error except that no sound and "sorry no mixer element or device found." when i adjust sound volume master. Already installed alsa-lib package.I cannot find alsa folder like /usr/sbin/alsaconf. This is what i been search tho this forum. Any ideas , thanks

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Daniel
 
Old 01-03-2007, 01:33 AM   #4
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If alsaconf is missing, then alsa isn't installed... the mixer it cannot find is alsamixer: you cannot have sound without the "Advanced Linux Sound Architecture".

This is FC3 again?
Considering your other problems as well, it sounds like your installation of FC3 is broken... you didn't install gcc, you didn't install alsa... what else is missing? (Did you select the "minimum" installation option perhaps?)

I repeat the advise from other threads: install FC6.
FC3 will soon become 100% unsupported. If you want to maintain an entire distro from source - may I suggest slackware or gentoo?
 
Old 01-03-2007, 02:22 AM   #5
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I select server installation which i think is full installation. So after i install gcc and alsa, it should be fine ? isn;t that i have some alsa lib installed ? I can run alsamixer , only cannot run alsaconf. For now i still need to run FC3 maybe i also can upgrade to FC6. What is the easiest way to upgrade to FC6 ? What do you mean entire distro from source ? isn;t FC also same ? Thanks

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Old 01-03-2007, 05:23 AM   #6
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I select server installation which i think is full installation.
Then you are mistaken. The server installation is pretty minimal when it comes to anything to do with a functioning desktop. In fact, you're lucky if you even have a gui! (The usual server installation is text-only. Often this option is used even without a monitor!) Note: servers don't need sound.

You need to reinstall - select a "custom" install - then, at the bottom of the package list, select "install everything". This installs - well - everything. A common option for newcomers until you discover what you tend to use... then you remove the packages you don't use. (The "everything" option gives you the "full bloat" effect - but you can streamline later to a lean-mean installation.)

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i also can upgrade to FC6. What is the easiest way to upgrade to FC6 ?
The best way is to download the FC6 DVD iso, burn it to a disk, and do a complete installation from scratch.

Custom partition to give yourself a (very large) partition to mount at /home as well as the boot, root and swap that fedora likes to have (in future installations, you will instruct anaconda to leave this partition alone. Keep all your personal stuff in /home/your-username and you won't lose data.)

Read the personal installation notes for FC6 at www.mjmwired.net (It'll steer you around some common problems). From there, everything should go. If you still have trouble, start a new thread.

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What do you mean entire distro from source ? isn;t FC also same ?
Nope. That's why you do not need a compiler by default.

A distribution whose packages are supplied as archived source code which is then compiled to make a working OS, is known as a "source based" distro. These distributions normally have special tools to help manage the source code packages.

Fedora Core is an "rpm-based" distribution. It is designed to receive updates in specially compiled "rpm" (redhat packet manager) files which will work only on fedora core computers.

However - for legacy fedora core (and redhat for that matter) these rpm files may not be available (nobody is making them any more). In which case, it is still possible to update the OS and so on by obtaining and compiling the source code yourself. Since fedora has no tools to make this easy, the process can be very tedious. You have to download - untar - ./configure (resolve errors) - make - make install ... for thousands of packages (some of which must be installed before others can be compiled.) It's the sort of thing that takes all day when you are good at it!

While you are checking out fedora core six, you may want to take a look at Ubuntu 6.10... where fedora is designed to be a developer-plaything-which-is-also-a-useful-desktop sort of thing, Ubuntu is designed to be accessible, stable, and useful. Ubuntu is a "deb-based" distribution - which is like rpm, only not.

Last edited by Simon Bridge; 01-03-2007 at 05:25 AM.
 
Old 01-05-2007, 07:46 AM   #7
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I plan to use this as server for networking and others server functions. And i thought server would have sound installed. How to ensure alsaconf is installed ? As i say alsa-lib-1.0.6-8.fc3 & alsa-utils-1.0.6.3 are found. What else do i need ? Btw those files like xxx.xxx.src.rpm consider source based ? Ubuntu is more user friendly and easy to use in terms of software installation and need to compile the source file ? Thanks

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Daniel
 
Old 01-05-2007, 11:21 AM   #8
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Hi, i have FC3 but there is no sound and i cannot even control the sound volume control panel, it will have msg like "sorry no mixer element or device found." But i check the alsa RPM been installed. I have alsa-lib-1.0.6-8.FC3 and alsa-utils-1.0.63 rpm. Also command not found when i type 'alsaconf'. No /usr/sbin/alsaconf folder also. Pls advise how to fix it. Thanks

Rgds
Daniel
gnome-volume-control to unmute

alsaconf
alsactl store

reboot

should be there back !
 
Old 01-05-2007, 11:22 AM   #9
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Originally Posted by Simon Bridge
While you are checking out fedora core six, you may want to take a look at Ubuntu 6.10... where fedora is designed to be a developer-plaything-which-is-also-a-useful-desktop sort of thing, Ubuntu is designed to be accessible, stable, and useful. Ubuntu is a "deb-based" distribution - which is like rpm, only not.
Stable? You are certainly joking ?
 
Old 01-05-2007, 10:26 PM   #10
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gnome-volume-control to unmute

alsaconf
alsactl store

reboot

should be there back !
i can use gnome-volume-control but there are no alsaconf & alsactl store. What rpm am i missing ?

Rgds
Daniel
 
Old 01-06-2007, 05:26 AM   #11
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Stable? You are certainly joking?
This is not the place dude.

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I plan to use this as server for networking and others server functions.
Isn't this the same machine you are trying to install xine on?

While it is technically possible just to fix the installation from where you are - it is annoying to do this via a forum like this one. Ideally, I would be sitting in front of your machine... (and you would be paying me )

However - the fastest and most reliable way to do this is to redo the installation. This makes sure you have a solid platform to build from. Make sure you know what is installed (anaconda tells you when you select your installation type). Make sure you know what you want.

Why would you need a dedicated server to have sound? A server is supposed to sit in a cabinet someplace and chug away - no kbd, no mouse, no monitor, no speakers... nothing. Just the network connections and drives. You do the fun stuff from a workstation.
 
Old 01-28-2007, 07:34 AM   #12
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Originally Posted by Xeratul
gnome-volume-control to unmute

alsaconf
alsactl store

reboot

should be there back !

HI
I can't run alsaconf on my box in Ubuntu.

****************************
studio@studio-desktop:~$ sudo alsaconf
sudo: alsaconf: command not found
***************************


Really buggin me as I have no sound on my RME card ( works fine in my 64studio!)


Any ideas
Cheers
Bob
 
Old 01-28-2007, 08:02 PM   #13
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Code:
$ apropos alsa
aconnect (1)         - ALSA sequencer connection manager
alsactl (1)          - advanced controls for ALSA soundcard driver
alsamixer (1)        - soundcard mixer for ALSA soundcard driver, with ncurses interface
amidi (1)            - read from and write to ALSA RawMIDI ports
amixer (1)           - command-line mixer for ALSA soundcard driver
aplay (1)            - command-line sound recorder and player for ALSA soundcard driver
arecord (1)          - command-line sound recorder and player for ALSA soundcard driver
aseqdump (1)         - show the events received at an ALSA sequencer port
aseqnet (1)          - ALSA sequencer connectors over network
asoundconf (1)       - utility to read and change the user's ALSA library configuration
speaker-test (1)     - command-line speaker test tone generator for ALSA
Use alsamixer to unmute your sound. I think you were looking for asoundconf?
 
  


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