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Old 01-27-2006, 09:00 PM   #1
teufelhund
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Resizing FAT/NTFS on dual-boot system


Sorry...I don't mean to kick a dead horse here.

A few searches of this site have turned up little information regarding my query...some hints that Partition Magic might work (I do have it.) Here's the question:

I have an installed dual-boot system with Win2k and Slack 10.2. I still need Windows for some school apps, so "delete M$" is not a viable option. My partitions go something like this:

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hda1 -- fat (accidental Win drive C...small, almost full -- was meant to be /boot on an earlier install, but Windoze took it over)
hda2 -- ntfs (Win drive D...main Win2k drive)
hda(the rest) -- various Slack partitions
I want to shrink D: and expand C: -- essentially I have some multimedia files I wish to share between OSes. If I use P.M. will it mess up my Slack due to rewriting the whole partition table, or will it only affect the two drives I am resizing (the Win drives)?

As long as it doesn't touch my Slack (reiserfs, btw) I'm confident...I've resized ntfs several times with no problems.

Thanks!

Matt
 
Old 01-27-2006, 09:51 PM   #2
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You definitely want to backup things before your go resizing your partitions. Do you have Ghost? I would recommend using the DOS version of Ghost 2003 and imaging both of your Windows partitions. You can possibly do this to a CD or DVD burner if you have one, or across a network to a second computer's harddrive if you have that available. Now you've got backups. Be sure and verify them. Ultimately, you'd like to actually restore from these images to make sure they work (but not to your current system, in case they DON'T work!)

After you've got good images, don't resize your existing partitions. Just delete them (but NOT your Slack ones!) and recreate two new empty ones of the sizes you want. Then restore your images to the new paritions. Ghost can handle different before/after partition sizes. Just make sure you recreate your new paritions big enough to hold the desired image.

Or you can mess with Partition Magic. But you still want backups before doing that. Ghost is not a backup tool, generally speaking. But for your use - backing up an entire partition for safekeeping - you could do a lot worse than a Ghost image. Linux's dd command could certainly stand-in for Ghost, if you are so inclined. But my preference is to use Windows/DOS tools for Windows stuff and Linux tools for Linux stuff when it comes to resizing partitions. No real reason for that, it's just a personal preference. Familiarity mostly.
 
Old 01-27-2006, 09:59 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by teufelhund
If I use P.M. will it mess up my Slack due to rewriting the whole partition table
Who knows. It shouldn't. Just backup your partition table first so you can restore it should something bad happen. P.M. probably wouldn't hurt Slack in any way you couldn't fix by restoring your partition table. But it could scramble your Windows partition CONTENTS as it attempts to copy/move/shrink data to different locations. P.M. is not supposed to do that, but I'll bet you a dollar that the user manual says "Backup your data before resizing." There's a reason for that caviot - things don't always work perfectly, everytime. If your dog chews through your computers power cord at just the wrong moment during the resize ... oops!
 
Old 01-27-2006, 11:09 PM   #4
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You can use:
1) Mandriva's first install CD, it contains perl partitioner;
2) You can use GParted (you need recent GTK-2), you will have to use it within Linux, so your root partition can't be resized (you also need to download ntfsresize lib to resize NTFS);
3) You can see the first link in my signature to do resizing from console, in this case you'll definitely need a calculator.

I myself used all methods and all worked for me.
 
Old 01-27-2006, 11:11 PM   #5
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Thanks for the suggestions. I don't have Ghost (oh, how I wish...), so I'll have to use PM.

I'll back up the important stuff for certain.

How do I back up my partition table? Can I do that through PM?

Oh, and no worries about a dog...don't have one. My curious 2-year-old, on the other hand...

Matt
 
Old 01-28-2006, 12:02 AM   #6
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I don't have Ghost (oh, how I wish...)
I just run the 2003 DOS version (included on the CD somewhere). The DOS version of ghost.exe is only one megabyte in size, and it's the only file you need. Fits on a floppy. I wouldn't go to the trouble of installing the Windows part of Ghost. I never understood the wisdom of trying to image an OS while booted into that OS!

I have no idea if this outfit below is reliable, legit, has reasonable S&H charges, or whatever. They just showed up on a Google search for "Ghost 2003 oem" (the third hit down the page). Pretty cheap. You could download the manual off the Symantec website if you wanted to.

http://www.buycheapsoftware.com/deta...uctID~1555.asp

Here's a popular site on using Ghost, if you're interested.

http://ghost.radified.com/

Now, ahem, back to the regularly scheduled LINUX forum...
 
Old 01-28-2006, 11:33 AM   #7
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you should have to read man fdisk
 
Old 01-28-2006, 12:24 PM   #8
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Forget Ghost -- Partimage is your friend.
 
  


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