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Old 04-04-2010, 12:07 PM   #1
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Mr. Wizard would have loved GNU/Linux to mix with his experiments! :)


Hi,

'Mr Wizard' was one of my early favorite TV shows, along with Davy Crockett and of course 'The Mickey Mouse Club' back in the fifties. A lot of interests were seeded by some of these early shows.

'Can't we just be friends? (Microsoft guys and Linux/Unix guys)' thread got me to thinking again about how misinformed a lot of users are with GNU/Linux and the evolution of the personal computer industry in general.

First of all I'll admit that I'm old as dirt. I've been working in or with electronics since the first transistor was made available to the public (I dissected my first transistor radio that was a very expensive Xmas present, was I ever in BIG trouble).

My interests in Electrical/Electronics got me into a lot of trouble with my parents and my home life. That would include dismantling mechanical/electrical/electronic devices then reassemble with sometimes having a working device at times while other times the device was sometimes improved. Other times I would have to sometimes start over else into a well supplied parts junk box.

Enough of my personal history.

My point is that a lot users are misinformed when it comes to history and the evolution of their favorite OS or for that matter the hardware.

This timeline got me to thinking and reminiscing about my experiences. I spent a lot of time in my cellar working on hardware/software throughout my adult life. Writing code to work or interface with home-brew hardware gave me a lot of experience along with patience to produce a working device. Some of these devices were developed to be used professionally within a University LAB or Industry. Personal LABS are much better than a University LAB because of isolation and the comfort within along with availability of access. The big what if 'If I had GNU/Linux back in say 1978?' or 'If I had GNU/Linux instead of UNIX back in the 80s' or How about even as far back as the first Intel 8086?'.

My point is that; How many actually experiment in their Personal Space today? How do you commit or mix with your personal life? What price do you pay? What have you gained? What's been your contribution to your niche?

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excerpt from timeline 1991;
April

* Computer Associates introduces the ACCPAC Simply Accounting integrated small business accounting software for Windows. [1049.142]
* Aldus releases the Aldus PageMaker 4.0 desktop publishing software for Windows. Price is US$795. [1049.132]
* In Finland, Linus Torvalds begins developing a variant of the UNIX operating system. (It will emerge as Linux.) [1035.161] [1106.28] [1184.74] [1451.12] [1615.50] [1648.50] (1990 [1628.25]) (1993 [791.38])
* Asymetrix releases ToolBook for Windows v1.5, an object-oriented visual development package. Price is US$395. [1049.129]
* Microsoft releases Microsoft Excel 3.0 for the Macintosh. [706.42]
* US District Court judge Terry Hatler reinstates Ashton-Tate's dBase copyrights, reversing his December 1990 decision. [26] [548.345] [679.51]
* Twenty-one companies create the Advanced Computing Environment (ACE) initiative, to establish a new standard for advanced desktop computers, based on RISC processing. Members include Compaq Computer, Microsoft, and Digital Equipment. [113] [172.74] [174.14] [820.14] [1080.195] [1149.404] [1299.428]
* In the lawsuit of Apple Computer versus Microsoft and Hewlett-Packard, Apple broadens its suit to include Windows 3.0. [346.195]
* Apple Computer demonstrates to IBM an IBM PS/2 Model 70 running Apple's "Pink" object-oriented operating system, appearing to be Apple's System 7.0 operating system. [618.308] [1721.29] [1880.20]
Back in 91, some of my work entailed LAB experiments that utilized the PC to acquire data and manage LAB experiments for both research along with Student experiments within a LAB setting. UNIX license even for a University were limited by hardware availability. We had AT&T 3B systems but the interfacing was not the easiest. At least compared to the Industry standard PC, the device was a lot easier to work with on a PC then even on a 3B1 or even a PDP. With the birth of the Linux kernel in 91, a soon to arrive Slackware would start a love affair with hardware interfacing for me.

What are some of your GNU/Linux experiences starting back in 92? Look at this Linux Timeline. Then look at the 'Chronology of Personal Computers' timeline. How do you fit in and what do you see or understand how things are presented today? Do you see where some people can be misinformed? Or even mix information to evolve to misinformation?

Just curious?
 
Old 04-04-2010, 09:22 PM   #2
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Thanks for rekindling fond memories, Gary.

Not exactly what you were looking for, but back in 1992 I was still using my Commodore C64 running GEOS as my main computer. Although I had been writing my own software for MS-DOS machines since v2.11, it was more of a hobby, as they weren't anywhere near as capable as the C64 when it came to color, graphics, and sound/music, despite the difference in system resources.

As far as my knowledge of GNU/Linux goes, the only thing I knew then was that Richard Stallman had founded the GNU Project and FSF around 1984. Having not seen anything from them for the Commodore or MS-DOS computers, I thought it was a short-lived prospect. I didn't hear of Linux until 2005.

Cheers

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Old 04-04-2010, 10:01 PM   #3
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im not that old
my history in short(as i where into hardware/admin too i skip it):
I where always find interesting to dig into things how they work. Despite that my family where not related to IT in any way i remember a lot of perforated paper cards with programs lie in our home and we write notes on them(they where used for some old huge computing machines to make scientific calculations) and i remember assembling with father radio from 'made by self' radio kit. Back to start of 90-x some of my friends got non x86 pc's(http://www.homecomputer.de/pages/f_i...trum_Gold.html) a little later i got access to YAMAHA KVT(http://www.leningrad.su/museum/show_calc.php?n=217) with gw- basic. I have to note that in that timeslice there where no windows or linux flying around . Later i got my first x86 pc cannon navigator based on intel 8086 4.77Mhz it got DOS 3.30 and on top Navigator GUI system. Much like windows 3.11 but more task oriented and user friendly with touch screen/phone support, more like modern hardware tied kiosk systems(http://retro-pc.net/musei/comp/cn/index.htm). Around 1997 i got pentium mmx system and just for fun installed linux mandrake system. I got impressed by it and keep in dual boot for some time just to dig into system(there where not enough coding tools/compilers GUI on it to work with my usual coding(asm/C++/pascal/delphi) later it switched to freeBSD system). One my friend setup BBS on linux system. Time passed i switched to web systems(i got tired of platform/os depended code execution). I switched to windows host and vmware susi linux(i saw one oracle db server on it). Around 2005 with my old friend we decided to write tcp->icmp->tcp network packet tunnel, he got example C code for linux so i installed debian under ~LinuxGo(linux kernel as windows service). In 2007 my 2003notebook got broken so i decided to upgrade him and switch to linux os as there where no point to install modern win os on it and main tools that i needed where present in linux already. Short after i setup/tuned ubuntu system to my needs i really love it and replaced 'work' OS on my main pc adjusting my toolchain to it. Needless to say i really into linux now but im quite realistic what OS is and what is not,today linux user ecosystem is superior to other platforms but time will bring new challenges.
 
Old 04-05-2010, 05:54 AM   #4
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My history, as far as computing is concerned, is detailed in the first entry of my LQ blog.. I recently found the receipt for my first computer, bought it in Feb. '04. I wish I'd taken an interest a hell of a lot sooner. Anyone got a Time Machine?
 
  


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