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First of all, i also engaged in an off-topic discussion, therefor i'm a Troll now. Alright, i'll get myself used to being one. Nothing like the present.. :P Back to non-topic.. Alright, some of these games in the list i've posted might still be available only on Windows but not Linux. You got a point there, i didn't check the availability for every single one of those. But then, the argument "there is a certain push towards Linux" certainly holds some truth. In a recent enquiry by MS to the Minecraft creator Markus Persson about working together on a Windows8 certification for his game, Persson replied: "I'd rather have minecraft not run on win 8 at all than to play along. Maybe we can convince a few people not to switch to win 8 that way.." Valve has issued similar statements. Many are worried about Windows8 and when it comes to Windows Blue, some ppl have already stated that they've had it with MS and their never-ending greed, not to mention their systems getting worse and worse. And with Wine alone, alot of games already work fine on Linux. Just recently, i've played a shooter under Wine and had an average of 83 frames on Linux compared to 78 frames on Windows, even with the "old" Nvidia driver. That's at least something, i.e., the game doesn't run slower on Linux, but even the opposite. There's also a noticeable trend away from the PC platform to game consoles as well as to mobile stuff. Which means that the PC market is goint to shrink even more, making it less attractive for game developers in general. That does not mean the market is dead and we can now just go and shoot ourselves, but it also means the game developers will have to get used to the idea that blindly focusing on just one single platform (Windows/DirectX/MS-something-you-name-it) is not such a good idea, so future titles will IMHO more often be designed with portability issues in mind. Finally, some devs will come to wake up and realize that Windows isn't all there is in the universe. Anyhow, i'm looking forward to all this. Considering the whole situation (even beyond operating systems or hardware platforms), big corporations are increasingly often looked at with a certain skepticism, which can only be good in the long run. |
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@Randicus
Right now, it may be a money looser for a lot of companies, but sooner or later Linux will take over on desktop. People are fed up with crap from MS and Apple. Sooner or later, they will switch, because they don't want to continue being raped by these companies that nickel and dime people to death. As for Wine, a lot of people like myself want to be able to run Windows only programs in Linux. As for the hardware I can remember a number of times in the past that I had to use VESA drivers for distros, and they were terrible. I want to get an AMD card and currently in PC-BSD, they only use VESA. The majority of cards I have used have been AMD/ATI, so this is where I am coming from. I also have issues using macros and other minor things with Linux. People in 3rd world countries and others that just don't want/can't afford to get a new computer can run Linux just fine, whereas Windows Vista and onwards lags on older computers. Again, with the push to Linux, whether or not you want to admit it, it will happen. @bloody I don't care about off-topic, I get pissed at statements like "don't bother." I have had similar results as you for the few games I have been able to test recently. It seems like Linux has much better optimization than Windows. Times are rapidly changing, and in 10-20 years it is possible that System-on-Chip computers(i.e. Raspberry Pi) could run games like Far Cry 3, so game developers just have to adapt. |
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Another hypothetical scenario is game makers focusing on game machines, which would lower the price of that hardware and draw gamers away form computers. Yet another hypothetical scenario is things continuing as they are. With Wine allowing games to be played on Linux, game makers will see no need to for portability, since we have already done it for them. The hypothetical possibilities are endless. |
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The only thing to consider is, if i'm used to have a hardware router/firewall at my home/office, the other guy might not and instead have connected his/her pc directly to the internet, meaning that my USB system will be directly receiving any kind of attack, so i have to be careful not to run public servers on my USB system without installing means of protection, like a local firewall or some such. But as long as ssh is the only server i'm running on my stick by default, i got no worries there either. Shall the bombardment begin.. good luck, hacker boyz.. 2) Well, this "password" thing probably refers to the idea to encrypt one or more of your partitions, usually with the /home partition in mind. That's a good idea if you have sensitive data stored on the stick, let alone for the case the stick gets lost/stolen on your way home, for example. Otherwise, since you are booting from the USB stick and the Linux system there takes full control over the machine, there's nothing to worry about your data, it will be as safe as usual because any other locally installed system is still shutdown & inactive. |
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Only the stupid people bend over to take it. Remember all the backlash over AC 2 and Splinter Cell Conviction? People would not buy it on desktop because it had some of the worst DRM that one could think of. Companies can do this, but sooner or later, it will catch up them them like in this case and bite them in the ass. Here is just one of many links: http://www.theverge.com/2013/2/24/40...h-improvements While it is possible that they may not go through with Blue, it appears that they will. There is also no denying that Windows 8 was such a huge turd that it could clog any toilet in the world. A lot of people do not want to switch from Windows 7, and when 8 and likely Blue are just turds, then they will look to other options. As for the drivers and such, you can deny all you want, but Steam will cause a big push to Linux. Period. Linux has the potential and the code, it just needs more TLC from places like AMD/ATI. And if you had read one of my previous posts you would have seen that I said I would be dual booting for a while, until I could get everything I wanted to function properly in BSD. As for the lectures, let me know what you want sources on and I will get it for you and we will put this sh*t to rest. @bloody Thanks for the feedback. That is a good idea and with just $25 for a rugged thumb drive, I can take an OS with me anywhere. :) |
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from: VIDEO_CARDS="nvidia" to: VIDEO_CARDS="nouveau radeon intel trident via vesa fbdev" So the desktop has a decent choice of drivers, including vesa if the hardware is... more exotic or not considered on my part. I also switched from "nvidia" to "nouveau" because my USB system is currently not used for high-end gaming. I was amazed how easy the entire installation turned out to be, considering the zillions of lengthy guides in the net about how to setup a "live" system using e.g. *buntu, even with entire toolkits made just for that purpose. But what i got now is not a "live" system but a full-fledged, regular installation which can be upgraded like any other. Linux is fun.. |
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It's really up to you to provide sources, it's not for someone else to trawl through your posts analyzing and verifying every detail... provide reliable sources for your claims and then the discussion can be meaningful, until then it's completely pointless... At this stage I am bowing out of your thread as I really should know better than to get involved in pissing contests like this. |
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Nvidia is even shipping drivers for FreeBSD. Ask them why they include smaller markets. Maybe wise foresight, maybe a tribute to their customers. Sometimes even big companies do something right.. |
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As far as gaming, java runs pretty happilly in linux and a lot of games are java based. While not the ideal platform a lot of the time. Some pretty big names have significant game offerings on the java side of things. Many of which are run by the web browser java plugin. OpenGL is even supported in java these days. And usable by the browser plugin. While not the ideal game platform, it is sufficient for most casuals. Or at least kids with hand me down computers and not the most recent of tech. |
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