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onebuck 02-04-2013 10:01 AM

Linux on Windows 8 PCs: Some progress, but still a nuisance
 
Hi,

Linux on Windows 8 PCs: Some progress, but still a nuisance;
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Summary: Some Samsung laptops with UEFI will brick when you try to install Linux on them, others have problems, and the Linux Foundation is continuing to try to bring its fix for Windows 8 UEFI Secure Boot out.

Getting Linux to boot and install on PCs locked down with Windows 8's UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface) Secure Boot continues to be annoying at best and downright impossible in some cases. Still, slowly, ever so slowly, progress is being made.
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Thor_2.0 02-06-2013 10:09 AM

I did some reading, cant this thing be disabled?

Not that I worry, I use ancient PC's :p

Thor

fogpipe 02-06-2013 10:17 AM

It just kills me when people laugh at windows 8. It wasnt about a new version of windows, it was about uefi. MS isnt stupid, just diabolical.

Thor_2.0 02-06-2013 10:35 AM

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. MS isnt stupid, just diabolical.
Umm...not really diabolical...more like...desperate. Have you seen what happened with dell? Simple. They grab a hold of a PC hardware platform, hope to seal themselves in and survive the downfall of locked-in software. Sad, just like in those horror movies where they tape of the doors and windows while the monster is in fact already inside :)

Edit : there have always been devices where a Linux install was/is (will be) a pain in the *** ;) - on the other hand, dell delivers Linux pre-installed servers. Ya really think it's gonna kick that (emerging) market?
More edit : (I'm on the roll here)

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Secure boot doesn’t “lock out” operating system loaders, but is a policy that allows firmware to validate authenticity of components
And...there is a solution:

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1) Buy bare metal. If you buy a bare metal machine without the Microsoft tax than this isn't going to be an issue.
from Red Hat engineers themselves. I always built my PC's, then I went to second-hands (save the planet one PC at a time...)

From a page somewhere...

And, by the way, is'nt there a replacement for the BIOS?

onebuck 02-06-2013 11:42 AM

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Hi,

Dell is going private! Reasons seem to be control of their platforms and the use of therefore hopefully control in the future.

Thor_2.0 02-06-2013 11:50 AM

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Dell is going private! Reasons seem to be control of their platforms and the use of therefore hopefully control in the future
...in one word : desparate. But, a safe move too, once on the stock market, you're vulnerable to all sorts of *** ;)
It's writing on the wall though that ***soft joined in...locked-in has had its days...I think...

Thor_2.0 02-06-2013 10:00 PM

And...by the way (been thinking last nite...) Linux is a MARKET now, you really think the industry is going to even allow someone to lock-in their market? A sizable portion of the Internet lives on Linux...

fogpipe 02-06-2013 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Thor_2.0 (Post 4885986)
And...by the way (been thinking last nite...) Linux is a MARKET now, you really think the industry is going to even allow someone to lock-in their market? A sizable portion of the Internet lives on Linux...

I like the way you think :)

Thor_2.0 02-07-2013 10:40 AM

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I like the way you think
Thanks...I hope it rubs of, it helped me put stuff into perspecive....you were next, and...here you are, putting this into perspective...
The dinosaurs are still around, but they're smaller now, and far less of a nuisance ;) it's evolution...


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