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Old 04-15-2004, 09:07 AM   #1
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Question linux distros from cd


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can anyone tell me the linux distros which you dont need to install , that juts run from a cd and where to download those

i want to learn linux first before installing it on my pc.

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Old 04-15-2004, 09:10 AM   #2
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there are several "live" distro's (as they are called). I know one called 'KNOPPIX' wich can be downloaded HERE but there are others...

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Old 04-15-2004, 09:52 AM   #3
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hi

well there are so many files on that site , in each mirror there are atleast 20 files like for example at ":
http://www.mirror.ac.uk/sites/ftp.un...linux/knoppix/

which one to download?

and also how many cds will i require ? ( each cd of 700 mb )

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Old 04-15-2004, 09:58 AM   #4
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Live CD

Give SLAX a try:

http://slax.linux-live.org/

Based on a cut-down version of Slackware. It has KDE3.2 for the desktop, but there are others available also depending on how you start X windows. It has just about all you would need for a desktop system. If you like it, there are also scripts to install it to your hard drive.

It won't boot straight to X Windows like Knoppix. You have to start from the command line, but the steps to start X Windows will be on the screen when you boot.

EDIT: I forgot to add that it fits on one CD and is about 250MB in size. Probably a bit less than that...

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Old 04-15-2004, 09:59 AM   #5
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Just one CD. Download this file KNOPPIX_V3.3-2004-02-09-EN.iso
To verify a good download also download KNOPPIX_V3.3-2004-02-09-EN.iso.md5. You can compare the generated md5sum against that file. You can download a windows version of md5sum
 
Old 04-15-2004, 10:08 AM   #6
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Re: Live CD

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Give SLAX a try:

http://slax.linux-live.org/

Based on a cut-down version of Slackware. It has KDE3.2 for the desktop, but there are others available also depending on how you start X windows. It has just about all you would need for a desktop system. If you like it, there are also scripts to install it to your hard drive.

It won't boot straight to X Windows like Knoppix. You have to start from the command line, but the steps to start X Windows will be on the screen when you boot.
thx!! very much , i just checked out the screenshot and they really are indeed cool.

i have a few questions:

1. can i learn using linux by using these live distros or i have to use those distros to install on harddisk to really learn linux?

2. will i be able to save my setting for this live distro on my harddisk so next time i dont have to load everything again

3. will it mess up with my windows xp or it wont touch anything of that?


its downloading on my dialup right now , saying 16 hours remaining will tell you once its downloaded , if i dont like it i will download knopix and try that one.

Thanks
 
Old 04-15-2004, 10:15 AM   #7
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one more thing can i use internet on this ? and do file sharing with my other networks pcs at home which have windows xp on them

thanks
 
Old 04-15-2004, 10:25 AM   #8
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Re: Re: Live CD

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1. can i learn using linux by using these live distros or i have to use those distros to install on harddisk to really learn linux?
You can learn a lot from the live distro. Its usually a good way to get some experience with linux before u install "normal" distribution.

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2. will i be able to save my setting for this live distro on my harddisk so next time i dont have to load everything again
It should be possible to save some settings (to floppy or hard drive partition)

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3. will it mess up with my windows xp or it wont touch anything of that?
Dont know how Slax but knoppix mounts all hard drive partitions as read only by default so it doesnt touch anything (slax will probably mount as read only too). Its up to u if u will remount some partition for writtable access (in this case u wont be able to write to NTFS partition - used kernel doesnt support it)
 
Old 04-15-2004, 10:30 AM   #9
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thanks

i am downloading version 4.0.8 right now , has anyone had problems with it because i saw on the websit that many people have problems with it

i tried to download 4.0.7 as well but i cant download it because the links are on ftp server and ftp is too slow on dialup

can anyone tell me if i can use internet on slax, i have a us robotics external modem

anyone who use slax can tell me if slax also write all partitions as read only?

thanks
 
Old 04-15-2004, 10:30 AM   #10
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Hi

Answer to 1: Well, you can probably learn to use Linux and get familiar with the desktop and do some command line stuff. You should know that this is a cut down version so doesn't have everything. You can get a list of what's installed from the website:

http://slax.linux-live.org/features.php

If you really want to get into Linux, then you will need to install it to the hard drive in the end (IMHO). Persevere and you won't regret it.

Answer to 2: Yes. You can save your setting to the floppy drive or the hard drive:

http://slax.linux-live.org/doc_using...lax.php#floppy

The instruction to restore it are in the same place.


Answer to 3: Running it from the CD it should NOT mess up your Windows XP installation, unless you were to mount the drive partition and start deleting stuff!! If you want to install it onto the hard drive, then you will need to configure a disk partition in advance and format it as a Linux partition. You will probably then need to use LILO or GRUB as your boot manager to choose whether to boot to Windows or Linux. I use GRUB and it works quite well. I run Windows XP, Slackware and SuSe all on the same machine. LILO works just as well though. Remember, as long as you don't delete anything from your Windows XP partition when running under Linux, (and you would probably have to mount it first) then you can always boot from your Windows XP CD and use FIXMBR to restore your original setup where you boot into windows at start up and it would be as if Linux was never there......

Check out the SLAX forums and FAQs as they will probably answer most of your questions....

Good luck.
 
Old 04-15-2004, 10:32 AM   #11
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Answer to 1: Well, you can probably learn to use Linux and get familiar with the desktop and do some command line stuff. You should know that this is a cut down version so doesn't have everything. You can get a list of what's installed from the website:

http://slax.linux-live.org/features.php

If you really want to get into Linux, then you will need to install it to the hard drive in the end (IMHO). Persevere and you won't regret it.

Answer to 2: Yes. You can save your setting to the floppy drive or the hard drive:

http://slax.linux-live.org/doc_using...lax.php#floppy

The instruction to restore it are in the same place.


Answer to 3: Running it from the CD it should NOT mess up your Windows XP installation, unless you were to mount the drive partition and start deleting stuff!! If you want to install it onto the hard drive, then you will need to configure a disk partition in advance and format it as a Linux partition. You will probably then need to use LILO or GRUB as your boot manager to choose whether to boot to Windows or Linux. I use GRUB and it works quite well. I run Windows XP, Slackware and SuSe all on the same machine. LILO works just as well though. Remember, as long as you don't delete anything from your Windows XP partition when running under Linux, (and you would probably have to mount it first) then you can always boot from your Windows XP CD and use FIXMBR to restore your original setup where you boot into windows at start up and it would be as if Linux was never there......

Check out the SLAX forums and FAQs as they will probably answer most of your questions....

Good luck.

thanks to you as well as well as thanks to muah
 
Old 04-15-2004, 10:34 AM   #12
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downloading 4.0.7 now because i dont want to waste my time if in the end 4.0.8 doesnt work because it will take around a day on dialup to download it :P

downloading the file to my linux box located in a us datacenter then will download it to my pc through http , hpoe this is not a copywrite violation
 
Old 04-15-2004, 10:57 AM   #13
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Edit: Gnoppix is the same as Knoppix but it runs Gnome.

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Old 04-15-2004, 12:48 PM   #14
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hi

the screenshot of slax looks very nice on the site , after i use it and if it works fine and i like it i might install slackware on my pc because slax use slackware so both are the same mostly ? right ?

i want to ask a question about installing , i will have to repartition my harddisk with partition magic i heard i have a 40 gb harddisk , with 4, 10 gb partitions , in the first partition ( c ) there is 7 gb free space , in the d partition 6 gb free , in e partition 2 gb free , and in the f partition 9 gb free , i dont want to loose any data so i will use partition magic to make a seperate partition of the free space , how many new partitions will i need and what should be the size of each?

after i install slackware will on the bootup it will automtically ask me if i want to go to winxp in my c partition or to slackware like it ask when we have two windows os or i will have to install something else for it?

which gui should i install ? gnome or kde ? if anyone could show me screenshot of both it would be kool

last question is it easy to remove linux if i get tired of it and dont want it anymore , like for removing windows and reinstalling again i just type format c: and then reinstall windows what will i have to do to remove linux without messing up windows and automatically bring my pc back to normal boot up procedure .

Thanks for your time and the help you are giving to me
 
  


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