LinuxQuestions.org
Download your favorite Linux distribution at LQ ISO.
Home Forums Tutorials Articles Register
Go Back   LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > Linux Forums > Linux - General
User Name
Password
Linux - General This Linux forum is for general Linux questions and discussion.
If it is Linux Related and doesn't seem to fit in any other forum then this is the place.

Notices


Reply
  Search this Thread
Old 05-04-2010, 04:44 AM   #1
William (Dthdealer)
Member
 
Registered: Jan 2009
Location: Sydney, Australia
Distribution: Debian Testing
Posts: 99
Blog Entries: 39

Rep: Reputation: 19
Question Is it possible to chainload into a Linux system in a fully loaded Windows Desktop?


Hello intelligent Linuxers,

Out of curiosity, can you chainload a Linux system via a Windows executable within Windows at the ordinary desktop?

Knowing windows there would be enough holes to write at any memory address without "permission", but can it be done with a humble executable? Or is Windows just too active, without the chance of nothing happening at any one point so that everything can be exited cleanly non-existent?

I'm not asking for a program or guide to do this and neither do I aim to do it. As I've stated it is all out of curiosity on whether or not some sort of protection is in place to stop this kind of thing.

If I wanted to hijack a Windows system I'd just use a firewire port anyway...

Regards, William
 
Old 05-04-2010, 05:19 AM   #2
pixellany
LQ Veteran
 
Registered: Nov 2005
Location: Annapolis, MD
Distribution: Mint
Posts: 17,809

Rep: Reputation: 743Reputation: 743Reputation: 743Reputation: 743Reputation: 743Reputation: 743Reputation: 743
I have never heard of something like this---either from Windows to Linux or the other way.
 
Old 05-04-2010, 06:31 AM   #3
saikee
Senior Member
 
Registered: Sep 2005
Location: Newcastle upon Tyne UK
Distribution: Any free distro.
Posts: 3,398
Blog Entries: 1

Rep: Reputation: 113Reputation: 113
It would be called a virtual machine.

Ubuntu does provide a variant whereby it is installed wholly inside a MS system. It is called Portable Ubuntu.

You get Linux to work as a guest system inside a host which is the MS system.

Last edited by saikee; 05-04-2010 at 06:32 AM.
 
Old 05-04-2010, 09:05 AM   #4
allend
LQ 5k Club
 
Registered: Oct 2003
Location: Melbourne
Distribution: Slackware64-15.0
Posts: 6,371

Rep: Reputation: 2750Reputation: 2750Reputation: 2750Reputation: 2750Reputation: 2750Reputation: 2750Reputation: 2750Reputation: 2750Reputation: 2750Reputation: 2750Reputation: 2750
For older Windows (95,98,Me) there was loadlin that would do this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loadlin
Another approach is that used by Cygwin. http://cygwin.com/ It is very useful to me for the ability to ssh (with X11 forwarding) to a Linux box and also for access to *nix text tools such as awk, grep and sed.
 
1 members found this post helpful.
Old 05-07-2010, 03:16 AM   #5
William (Dthdealer)
Member
 
Registered: Jan 2009
Location: Sydney, Australia
Distribution: Debian Testing
Posts: 99

Original Poster
Blog Entries: 39

Rep: Reputation: 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by allend View Post
For older Windows (95,98,Me) there was loadlin that would do this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loadlin
Another approach is that used by Cygwin. http://cygwin.com/ It is very useful to me for the ability to ssh (with X11 forwarding) to a Linux box and also for access to *nix text tools such as awk, grep and sed.
Wow, thankyou. Loadlin was exactly what I was posting about. It is a shame it is no-longer usable now with the NT era.

Cygwin + bash = winash

Thanks Allend.

Quote:
Originally Posted by saikee View Post
It would be called a virtual machine.
Chainloading and VMs have nothing in common, unless you use grub in your vm. Chainloading is where the current program/os replaces itself with another in the same memory area. VMs just nest OS's within each other, in different memory areas but with the second running in an emulated environment so it (mostly) thinks it is the main and only OS.
 
Old 05-07-2010, 08:00 AM   #6
saikee
Senior Member
 
Registered: Sep 2005
Location: Newcastle upon Tyne UK
Distribution: Any free distro.
Posts: 3,398
Blog Entries: 1

Rep: Reputation: 113Reputation: 113
I think Loadlin works in real mode as a Dos program operating in a command prompt. If it has a desktop version then I never ran into it. The Windows has to be shut down in order to boot up the kernel which has to be made available in the Loadlin directory or at those days conatined inside a floppy. Loadlin is exactly waht its name implies to "Load Linux". It might has its place before LIlo and Grub were fully developed.

The Grub4Dos system is possibly a newer equivalent.

Chainloading is a term used by one boot loader to boot another boot loader.

Last edited by saikee; 05-07-2010 at 08:02 AM.
 
  


Reply

Tags
chainload, windows



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
how to find if the application has fully loaded? sr71919 Linux - General 1 02-16-2010 03:56 AM
Who has a desktop system fully functional? Can you share your hardware? abefroman Linux - Hardware 3 02-03-2010 07:54 PM
hi, i have installed open suse 10.2 in my desktop pc also have windows xp sp2 loaded. neovicks Linux - Hardware 2 06-18-2007 08:47 AM
copy a content of screen while X windows system is being loaded fuelinux Linux - Newbie 2 10-24-2003 06:36 AM

LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > Linux Forums > Linux - General

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:41 PM.

Main Menu
Advertisement
My LQ
Write for LQ
LinuxQuestions.org is looking for people interested in writing Editorials, Articles, Reviews, and more. If you'd like to contribute content, let us know.
Main Menu
Syndicate
RSS1  Latest Threads
RSS1  LQ News
Twitter: @linuxquestions
Open Source Consulting | Domain Registration