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Install cd doesn't find cd-rom or sata disks.
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So I'm very happy with my new pc, containing an Asus P5Q-E motherboard, with two sata harddrives and one pata dvd/cd drive attached to it. Oh, and it's got the P45 chipset if you're interested. The problem: Installing Debian-based os'es from cd-rom results in one of the two scenario's: 1.) The installer gives the message "No common cd-rom drive was detected.", after which no further progress seems possible. It does detect the harddrives in this case, as I can see from the dmesg report. The dmesg does not show any detected cd-rom drives. 2.) The installer loads fine, until the partitioner arrives and can't find any harddrives at all. In this case dmesg indeed does not show any detected harddrives. I've found and read literally dozens of webpages about this problem, but found no working solution for me yet. It seems it has to do with the combination of sata, ide pata cd-rom drives, and newer hardware. As posted in http://www.debianhelp.org/node/7048#comment-23928 : "Several people have seen this problem because some new motherboards are using some kind of SATA to IDE bridge that leaves a CD unavailable between initial boot and the point when CD drivers are later installed by the kernel. I think the installer falls into the gap there and fails as a result." So I end up with no mountable cd-rom but available harddrives, or the other way around. What I've tried: 1.) Changed the BIOS SATA setting to Enhanced mode 2.) Changed the BIOS SATA setting to Compatible mode 3.) Tried cd's with Ubuntu 7.10, 8.04, 8.10(alpha), Debian Lenny Beta2, and a few other Debian-based distro's, all with the same results. 4.) manually loaded the ata_piix module before the install 5.) manually unloaded the ata_piix module before install 6.) Booted the installer in expert mode, which with no single distro allowed me to load or unload any ata related modules or in fact any module other than usb_storage. 7.) banged head against desk (didn't help) 8.) added "ata_piix.blacklist=yes" to the kernel parameters on boot 9.) ??? (forgot what else I've tried in the past 5 or so hours..) All of these attempts had no noticable effect at all, the problem stayed the same. So, any suggestions? I hope it's still readable for you guys, I've tried to keep it clear..) |
How about using a SATA DVD drive? I put a new Samsung SATA DVD into a computer that I just built. I have a different chip set so I don't know if this will fix your problem. (Asus P5N-D with Nvidia chips)
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I'll go look for one tomorrow, as it's pretty handy for my other pc's and laptops as well. Still, I've been spending hours on this problem and now I dangit want to fix it too, can't let such a problem get the better of me.. :) That, and that there's probably dozens of others with the same problem as well..) |
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You could try upgrading the motherboard BIOS. My P5N-D was a bit flaky until I flashed the BIOS to the latest version. I got that off of the Asus web site. |
I just performed a Debian Lenny Beta2 install from a usb stick. It was remarkably easy. It didn't show the cd-rom in dmesg but I thought I'd solve that later.
Partitioning the harddrives and installing everything went fine, no problems at all. Until I rebooted.. Now when I boot the pc, even when I select the harddrive to boot from, using F8, it just shows the blinking cursor on a black screen and that's it. No harddisk activity, no messages from any bootloader at all, just a blank screen.. So now one problem solved, on to the next, bwegh. Anyway, I've read some 60 webpages about the cd-rom/sata problem today and made a list of possible solutions to that problem. I'll post it tomorrow. Maybe it will help someone with a similar problem. For now it's time for bed, I've had enough of these stubborn computer problems for today.. :) |
As promised, the list of possible solutions I found:
- Run Live CD and use debootstrap? http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/426 -- Debootsrap howto: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/426 - Install from USB? -- Debian: http://math.umh.ac.be/an/D820/ -- Debian: http://wiki.gacq.com/index.php/Debia...e_un_drive_USB (very short) -- Debian: http://www.debian.org/releases/stabl...h04s04.html.en (just about as short, yet clear) - AHCI module? - Install via network? - generic.all_generic_ide=1 boot parameter? - (For Debian): 1 - boot: expert BOOT_DEBUG=3 2 - In the shell: nano /etc/modprobe.conf add the line: options libata atapi_enabled=1 save & quit exit from the shell 3 - Continue the installation. After choosing your language and keyboard you can go to the shell (Alt+F2) and verify that you CDROM is there: cat /proc/scsi/scsi ------------------------------- Found this in a bug report: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugre...=345999;msg=75 - at boot: install libata.enableatapi=1 (only works for kernels 2.6.13 and above) - at boot: install libata.atapi_enabled=1 (only works for kernels 2.6.13 and above) - set SATA mode in BIOS to Enhanhed - set SATA mode in BIOS to AHCI - add noacpi to kernel parameters - Map the SATA Devices to SATA0 and SATA1 in the BIOS, instead of IDE - Upgrade BIOS - Before cd detection: unload ata_piix and maybe others, load (ide-)generic (ide_generic?), ide-cd and isofs. sata modules will be loaded at a later stage. - Add hdb=cdrom to kernel parameters? - mount the cdrom manually with "mount /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 /cdrom/" - try booting Lenny Beta1 with 'hw-detect/load-ide=true' - add "irqpoll" (including quotes?) to kernel parameters - add all-generic-ide irqpoll to kernel parameters More info and solutions: - http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Proble...A_on_DVD_drive I am most certain that there is actually a working boot record and OS installed on my drive now, so the problem that my system doesn't boot it must be something else. When booting I see something with "no harddisk" flash by, so maybe that's it. Either way, that's not what this topic is about so I won't bother you guys with that, for now..) |
I have same motherboard as you. My SATA-DVD isn't found so I can't install either. I hope you find a solution to the problem :)
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But feel free to try the list of possible solutions I found and posted above. That list is the result of a few hours of browsing and searching the web and looking at about a hundred pages on this problem, so surely one of them must work..) P.P. I have bought an external USB DVD drive casing, hooked it up to the computer and.. nothing. Dmesg doesn't even notice the darn thing. So if you're in a hurry and don't mind using Debian, I'd go for the USB stick solution, if that's an option. :) |
Lennybeta2 found my SATA DVD and HD but it seems like there isn't any ethernet driver so I'm still stuck. It's Atheros GigaBit Lan on the motherboard.
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hi nio,
i think ur cd has problem. do one thing. reboot the system and enter into the bios change the boot option to cd-rom. save the changes. try it. |
Just bought myself a P5Q motherboard last week and having a similar problem with Ubuntu not seeing my SATA HD's. Don't have a SATA DVD though, just an IDE DVD.
For anyone interested, I found my answer on Wikipedia when looking up AHCI. Got my SATA HD's working without any problems... so far. However, I still have the same problem as you, zipz, in that Linux doesn't recognise my Atheros GigaBit port either. No other information is discernible, either physically looking at the MB, reading the manual, looking in BIOS or otherwise. Any ideas would be appreciated. |
hi,
this is mahesh. i faced this problem once. but i solved that one. i am saying what did i do to solve my problem. so, follow this try in your machine,send me the result to saga.mahesh@gmail.com. **press "del" key when your mahcine power on(switch on).it will show the boot order and select the "cd-rom" press "Enter(Return)". if it will not work **go to BIOS by pressing corresponding key(del,f1,f10..).and go to "Device COnfiguration" in "Storage Option" and select harddisk type(IDE/SATA) press (Enter/Return).then Select "Transaction Mode" is "Automatic" by using Arrow Buttons. and press "del" key when your mahcine power on(switch on).it will show the boot order and select the "cd-rom" press "Enter(Return)". i hope it will work properly. bye, Have a Nice Day, Regards, Mahesh Saga, |
Solution
hi,
this is mahesh. i faced this problem once. but i solved that one. i am saying what did i do to solve my problem. so, follow this try in your machine,send me the result to saga.mahesh@gmail.com. **press "del" key when your mahcine power on(switch on).it will show the boot order and select the "cd-rom" press "Enter(Return)". if it will not work **go to BIOS by pressing corresponding key(del,f1,f10..).and go to "Device COnfiguration" in "Storage Option" and select harddisk type(IDE/SATA) press (Enter/Return).then Select "Transaction Mode" is "Automatic" by using Arrow Buttons. and press "del" key when your mahcine power on(switch on).it will show the boot order and select the "cd-rom" press "Enter(Return)". i hope it will work properly. bye, Have a Nice Day, Regards, Mahesh Saga, |
hi,
this is mahesh. i faced this problem once. but i solved that one. i am saying what did i do to solve my problem. so, follow this try in your machine,send me the result to saga.mahesh@gmail.com. **press "del" key when your mahcine power on(switch on).it will show the boot order and select the "cd-rom" press "Enter(Return)". if it will not work **go to BIOS by pressing corresponding key(del,f1,f10..).and go to "Device COnfiguration" in "Storage Option" and select harddisk type(IDE/SATA) press (Enter/Return).then Select "Transaction Mode" is "Automatic" by using Arrow Buttons. and press "del" key when your mahcine power on(switch on).it will show the boot order and select the "cd-rom" press "Enter(Return)". i hope it will work properly. bye, Have a Nice Day, Regards, Mahesh Saga, |
Solution For Machine Booting Problem
hi,
this is mahesh. i faced this problem once. but i solved that one. i am saying what did i do to solve my problem. so, follow this try in your machine,send me the result to saga.mahesh@gmail.com. **press "del" key when your mahcine power on(switch on).it will show the boot order and select the "cd-rom" press "Enter(Return)". if it will not work **go to BIOS by pressing corresponding key(del,f1,f10..).and go to "Device COnfiguration" in "Storage Option" and select harddisk type(IDE/SATA) press (Enter/Return).then Select "Transaction Mode" is "Automatic" by using Arrow Buttons. and press "del" key when your mahcine power on(switch on).it will show the boot order and select the "cd-rom" press "Enter(Return)". i hope it will work properly. bye, Have a Nice Day, Regards, Mahesh Saga, |
Hi guys,
I bought this motherboard last week and run into the same problem !!! I finally installed Debian with an USB key. But now I have a working system, I still can't access my IDE DVD. Have anyone found a solution/workaround for this ? Thanks. |
Don't these ASUS boards have a Marvell IDE controller? It is still not supported by Linux. If you can return your board, get an MSI P43 or P45 instead, far more Linux friendly.
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yeah, you're totally right !
I found a recent post of Alan Cox on LKML http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/9/2/272 Hope this issue will be solved in the kernel release. One possible solution seems to load pata_marvell before ahci, but I didn't test it. |
I have a Asus P5Q-E with two SATA HDDs and a SATA DVD drive, attached to the Intel Southbridge SATA ports (not the Marvell ones). The Kubuntu alternate install CD initially failed to find my DVD drive (or the HDDs). For me, the fix was as simple as setting the SATA mode from IDE to AHCI in the BIOS, it all works fine now.
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Hello all, I have a Compaq CQ60 (206-US) and I have had many issues regarding the sata cd-rom in this laptop as well.
I have tried several options and several distro's. I did manage to get 2 different Linux distributions to install.
* I count ubuntu and kubuntu as the same distro since the only difference is the desktop (Gnome/KDE). Hence CentOS and (k)ubuntu count as 2. Also, since CentOS is a free clone of Red Hat (RH), I am positive RH would install as well using the same steps as CentOS. I also believe that RH would/should be counted as the same distro as CentOS due to the fact that they have the same exact files, libs, kernel, etc with the exception of logos and themes. CentOS just recompiles the RH source and includes their logos. ----------- CentOS 5.3 Install Steps ----------- The first distro that I got installed was a surprise... CentOS 5.3! CentOS is more of a server distro and has way less *new* hardware support (less bleading edge software/drivers for stability). For CentOS I had to add "pci=nomsi" to get the sata driver loaded properly, next I got the infamous "Machine Check Error" or "mce" followed by a kernel panic. The trick to fix that was also add "nomce" after my "pci=nomsi" on the grub kernel line. This allowed me to install, however the nforce ethernet as well as the atheros 5007 wireless card failed to get detected and did not work. The sound worked and was detected but was real scratchy. I had to download a kmod-forcedeth driver rpm from a third party site, and also the mad-wifi source from third party site and compile it. The sound never got fully worked out until I downloaded and compiled the latest alsa. After all that, since it was a server distro... little or no multi-media support. NEXT OS PLEASE lol. ----------- (k)ubuntu 9.04 Install Steps ----------- Thankfully Ubuntu 9.04 as well as Kubuntu 9.04 worked right out of the box for all my hardware! |
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