I almost never power my systems off in the normal meaning of the word. I just press the power button and my systems go to hibernation. But if I want to do it I use my openbox menu or do sudo poweroff.

shutdown -h now without sudo because I'm using arch

BTW, I noticed some members say they just press the power button to shutdown the system, but isn't this bad? Linux needs to unmount filesystems and sync disks and etc before quiting.

I remember back in the mid 90s when I once in awhile press the power button off. And when I went to turn on the computer I was confronted with the fsck message because linux didn't shutdown properly.

Those of you who just press the power off button, do you get the fsck message when you turn on the computer again?

If not, it's probably because the filesystem of today is more robust than that from the early to mid 90s. Just my guess.

Technically I can press the power button and it will shutdown normally and without filesystem errors (regular shutdown), it's only if I hold the button down that it will shutdown in a bad way.

No, it's because these people have acpi configured. When you press the power button it initiates a normal shutdown procedure. To force a hardware shutdown you have to hold the power button for 3 seconds.

My laptop is configured to hibernate if you press the power button, so I use it. The desktop stays on all the time, it only gets restarted for kernel updates.

That means that you don't need root-privilegues in Arch? Or that you are working as root?

haha yeah i remember that too, i forget which version of DOS that was or if PARK was an external command specific to machines older then self parking hard drives

back on topic i use poweroff

I like to stay up on the latest technology; I use the PowerButton.

i don't use neither of those :
I let GNOME do the hard job for me

I think you misunderstood my post or I didn't give the whole picture.

When I said I use shutdown -h now, this is after I log in as root.

I do everything as a regular user and when I'm ready to shutdown, I log in as root and type the command above.

I could give my regular user the privilege to shutdown the machine, but I won't because I'm old school. I like to follow the old tradition of unix where root is the almighty and regular users are just users with limited privileges.

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I technically wouldn't recommend sudo /etc/init.d/halt stop as it would halt the system *IMMEDIATELY* without shutting down system daemons/services first, which in turn crashes those apps and can cause loss of data.

And sudo init 0 initializes the system to runlevel 0, which basically shuts down the system. sudo halt does the same thing as well.

In my opinion, it's all a matter of personal preference.

I don't have sudo on my system (I prefer to actually remember my root password TYVM ), but I do use init 0 if I want to shut down from the CLI as root (or init 6 to reboot). Easier to type that way, I think.

Most of the time, though, I do it from Xfce: Quit->Shutdown ("Quit" is the button on the very right side of the Xfce panel).

I use a power button.

K menu > Leave > Shutdown. Why do in 15-20 clicks what I can do in 3?

And has anybody commented on /etc/init.d/halt stop yet?

Not clicks, keystrokes. There's a difference.