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skydart 08-25-2004 05:33 PM

How to upgrade from KDE 3.2 to KDE 3.3 on SuSE 9.1
 
I have spent a considerable amount of time trying to find a thread on the "easy way" to install KDE 3.3 on SuSE 9.1, but can't seem to find the thread. I found it yesterday on LinuxQuestion.org, but I can't seem to find it today!

Please begin with where to download the exact file(s) that I need. I have just installed SuSE Linux 9.1 and have the latest "patches" on everything system-wide (according to YAST). I know I'm new to Linux, but whatever happened to downloading 1 file and executing it! ;-) [just kidding], I do however, need to know what file(s) to download and how to install those files.

Being fairly new to Linux, (learning quickly because it is now my only OS!), can someone please tell me step by step how to upgrade from 3.2 to 3.3? If you only know of a thread that will show me, I'd deeply appreciate the help. Again, I'm new, so please provide explicit command line details. Thanks!

skydart 08-25-2004 09:03 PM

40 views and nobody knows how?

J.W. 08-25-2004 11:14 PM

Per the LQ Rules, please do not bump your own thread until at least 24 hours have elapsed without a reply. Because the LQ membership is global, people in other time zones may not have seen this post yet, and thus it may take some time before a response is received.

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Given the above, expecting an answer in under 4 hours is a bit optimistic; please give folks some time, and if/when someone has advice to offer, he/she will post it. In other words, people who have seen a post may not know how to solve the issue, and similarly, people who may know how to solve the issue may not have seen the post. -- J.W.

ithawtewrong 08-26-2004 10:37 AM

I haven't upgraded myself yet, but I did find this. Hope it helps.

http://forums.suselinuxsupport.de/in...59&hl=kde+3\.3

skydart 08-26-2004 10:40 AM

Thank you.
 
Thank you. My appologies to the Moderator "JW"and everyone else, I think of the time zone issue. I suppose I'm just too impatient. I'll be patient from now on "JW".

Thanks again for the link, ithawtewrong.

J.W. 08-26-2004 10:46 AM

No problem skydart, we've all been in the same spot where we are anxious to get a reply to the question, but sometimes it does take some time before a reply is received, particularly when you consider that the LQ membership is worldwide. Thanks for understanding. -- J.W.

skydart 08-26-2004 11:03 AM

I think I found the answer
 
Incidently, I think I may have found the solution to updating to KDE 3.3.

I read the links that ithawtewrong has posted, and found that if you go to http://forums.suselinuxsupport.de/in...pic=4013&st=30 and scroll near the bottom of the page, you'll find the source file you need to use.

From what I've read, you need to install from GNOME or some other front end, ensuring that KDE is not running. You can even do this through YaST (via GNOME). You'll need to change your "soure" in YaST, to wherever you placed the downloaded file. (you can get teh download link at the link I just posted).

ZaphyR 08-26-2004 11:05 AM

well, the easy thing is to use YaST2...
add this in you download resources
Code:

ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/update_for_9.1/yast-source/
and then do a System Update...

thats it
:D

skydart 08-26-2004 11:34 AM

Really?
 
All from within the KDE desktop using YAST? For real? Have you done that and if so, did you experience any problems?


When I go to that link, it provide a couple of different subdirectories, etc. What exactly do I need to download, and from what directory? OR, do I somehow tell YAST to point to the link you provided, and if so, how? As a new Source?

ZaphyR 08-26-2004 12:12 PM

all from KDE using YaST...yes :)
I did it when updating to 3.2.3 and when updating to 3.3...no problems what so ever

if you open Control Panel and click on the bottom buttom (i cant remember the name), then you click on the top button, below the Back button, where you can add sources. choose FTP source and add "ftp.suse.com" as server and "/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/update_for_9.1/yast-source/" as folder, then press OK.

After that you do a System Update, it is the button on the bottom

Im sorry, im at work now working on a windows box, so i cant remember the names of the different buttons....but i believe i remember where they are located :)

did this help you in any way?

skydart 08-26-2004 12:56 PM

UPDATE
 
I have found that I am in desparate need of the following two files. Once I have these two files, the installation of KDE 3.3 should be like clockwork.

libjack.so.0

libaspell.so.15

Here is my question. WHERE can I get these files and HOW do I install them? If you know, PLEASE provide a link for me and tell me how to install them. (If they are .rpm's I know how to install those); as I am very new to Linux and SuSE 9.1

I do not have an install CD, so that's not an option for me.

ANY help in this matter would be deeply appreciated. Thank you!

ZaphyR 08-27-2004 12:51 AM

hum, i have never had problems doing a System Update, so i have not encountered the problems you are having.
perhaps this is what you are looking for?


libaspell
libjack

remember, google is your best friend ;)

skydart 08-27-2004 10:03 PM

Thank you, however, in so doing, I their are so many more dependencies. I'll have to wait for SuSE to be able to come out with it. Thanks anyway. Even tried after a fresh install.

ZaphyR 08-28-2004 02:10 AM

very strange, how one thing works for one installation but not on the other...

dkpw 08-31-2004 05:05 AM

Open Office failure after KDE 3.3 upgrade
 
I successfully updated to KDE 3.3 and found it very pleasant to look at, although it did seem a little slower on my 1.5GHz Centrino T41 ThinkPad. However I was less pleased when I discovered that OpenOffice refused to start up. Whichever module I used in OO I would get no further than the bouncing icon and then be returned to the KDE desktop.

I tried a YAST de-install and reinstall of OO without success before reverting to KDE 3.2.1.

I upgraded KDE using the method suggested by ZaphyR above, direct from the SuSE FTP server. I'm slightly disappointed that KDE did not update without consequence but I'm still happy with 3.2.1.

I just thought I would share my glitch in case others are similarly affected.

Regards

dkpw

ZaphyR 08-31-2004 05:29 AM

have you tried starting it from terminal?
cuz i dont think OO get updated when updating to KDE 3.3, so perhaps its just your shortcut/link that is invalid?

dkpw 08-31-2004 08:02 AM

Hi ZaphyR,

That's so obvious I'm blushing! DOH!

Maybe another try tonight.

Kind regards,

dkpw

ZaphyR 08-31-2004 08:11 AM

hehe, well...let me know the results :)

dkpw 08-31-2004 05:16 PM

Hi ZaphyR,

My blushes are spared somewhat. I'm now at KDE 3.3 - the problem with Open Office was a locked configuration file. OO thought it was already running - a corrupted preferences file perhaps? Reminds me of Mac OS 9!

Regards,

dkpw

ZaphyR 09-01-2004 12:24 AM

ah, ok....! so now you can run 3.3 like youre supposed to ;)
never used Mac, so i wouldnt know :p

thom 09-01-2004 01:54 PM

Well, please share with the rest of us what you did to unlock OpenOffice.org in KDE 3.3. I am having similar problems.
The other issue I get is:
1. Screensavers not working, though there are a few new ones available.
2. KDE Kernel Configurator from control panel. I know its not preferred, but why is it there than, if it doesn't work.

Thanks

dkpw 09-02-2004 01:15 PM

Hi Thom,

I have experienced some similar issues with the screen savers. Some of them would not respond to configuration changes or allow themselves to be tested from within the Control Centre. My preferred SS is the Matrix which although it would not allow configuration did kick in after my selected 10 minutes. So in some respects I'm happy enough. I'm sorry I don't have any fixes, other than to suggest selecting your SS of choice and configuring a hot corner and use that to test if it runs, rather than trying the test button in the Control centre.

I think the Control Panel Kernel configuration page does not work with the 2.6 kernel, if memory serves me right. I guess it's there for those using 2.4 kernels and for when KDE "catches up" with 2.6..

As for the OpenOffice issue, from memory (I'm on my G4 at the moment) here's what happened.

I must have had an OO doc open when I began the system upgrade. When I completed the KDE update to 3.3 for the first time, I tried to start OO under KDE 3.3 and as my previous post mentions I got no further than the bouncing icon. Disappointed, I then reverted to KDE 3.2.1..

ZaphyR suggested broken aliases (sorry symlinks) so I reinstalled KDE 3.3 using thee SuSE FTP site and the YAST system upgrade option. Second time around OO came back with an error message something along the lines of "There are two instances running. Do you want to close the other instance and delete the preference file?" Answering yes started OO without issue.

See this from the OO Support pages:
=================================
On my Linux system, OpenOffice will not start, what's wrong ?

Only one OpenOffice process can run at a time for each user. So it's possible that you have an OpenOffice process already running. You can check this with the shell command Òps -a | grep office Ó.

You should then either check that OpenOffice is not running in any other workspace. If it is not then you can stop that OpenOffice process by using the command Òkill <process-id-of-openoffice> Ó.
=================================

OO definitely got hung up on my ThinkPad and I think the lesson is not to have open documents when doing major upgrades. Whether this will help you in your situation I'm not sure, but I hope so.

Regards,

dkpw

Celettu 09-02-2004 03:29 PM

I have the same issue here after updating to 3.3. I can open Office in /home/celettu/soffice. Office will boot fine, and I can open any document in it. However, double clicking on a file or opening the seperate apps will result in nothing but a bouncing icon that disappears after 30 seconds. Frustrating.

San

hand of fate 09-24-2004 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ZaphyR
all from KDE using YaST...yes :)
I did it when updating to 3.2.3 and when updating to 3.3...no problems what so ever

if you open Control Panel and click on the bottom buttom (i cant remember the name), then you click on the top button, below the Back button, where you can add sources. choose FTP source and add "ftp.suse.com" as server and "/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/update_for_9.1/yast-source/" as folder, then press OK.

After that you do a System Update, it is the button on the bottom

Im sorry, im at work now working on a windows box, so i cant remember the names of the different buttons....but i believe i remember where they are located :)

did this help you in any way?

I did that, and now my computer fefuses to run a graphical environment at all! Any advice on what I can do to rescue it? When I boot up, I get a graphical screen saying something about ?KDEinit, with just an OK button, which takes me to just the command line interafce. Checking the base packages with the rescue CD doesn't find anything wrong at all.

Any help would be appreciated.

jakobie 10-04-2004 11:50 PM

On the whole OO thing...
 
I've been using Suse to see if I can get used to Linux enough to get the laptop I really want insted of the powerbook, and my first task was upgrading KDE. Which thanks to this post I got done. After that I could not get OO to open at all, it would start, and once I even got the pick a document to open screen. At that point I said **** it and ran the OO uninstaller since the "repair" was not an option. I loged in as root tonight, and OO is still in the roots applications menu, and it actually runs. Perhaps the issue is OO with the user who was logged into the GUI when updating KDE?

But anyways, my point is, I installed StarOffice and I know they are both the same thing basicy. How much so they are the same and or if one is better then the other. Then, how do I get OO back on to my regular user if root has it?

Also, is there a way to give a shell scrpt an icon with out changing the icons for all shell scripts?

ClarkNG 10-16-2004 10:07 PM

Hi....when I try to System Update from the FTP server you supplied earlier, I'm assaulted with a barrage of dependency conflicts. Is this supposed to happen?

vinay_s_s 10-16-2004 10:33 PM

the oo.org problem is beacuse of the kde bindings suse has applied.

u can change the oo.org scripts manually , or remove oo.org from suse and use the installer from the oo website.

Note: oo.org runs fine in a non-kde environment. (check it if u dont believe me! )


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