are you running english mode? to popup the XCIN window for entering chinese character, you need to change your language to Chinese Traditional with LocaleDrake. The encoding needs to be Big5. I don't really use XCIN.

That's correct, yokel/guni,

You need to have the locale settings set to Big5 or GB, depending on your needs. If it is set to English locale setting, then programs like xcin, chinput etc. will not function correctly...

Ideally, I use English environment as standard, and just open a terminal as another Chinese-settings user and run xcin, chinput, fcitx etc from within that without having to log out of the English environment...


Have a nice day!

Hi I have just installed MDK 9.2 and I must be totally thick in my head, as I still can not get the Simplified Chinese input to work, whoo the developer of MDK must have their heads examined, why so many complications ? Windows just two Clicks in the Regional settings, and it works from English desktop, but with MDK you still need to be expert on Linux just to get it to work, I'm sure it will work on a Chinese Install, but many people like my self do not want Chinese Install, I'm not Chinese and therefore like English install with Simplified Chinese input working, without having to logout and login again in Chinese, how totally stupid..

They have long way to go on the Chinese market which by year 2008 will be the second largest internet users in the world, and the developers at Mandrake still totally ignore this , that is why Microsoft will always be the winners, and the Chinese will still be installing Windows, they tried the Linux system, at many government offices, but gave up in the end as the Chinese input system was do complicated to get working.

From the launch of WIN2K Microsoft have the best Chinese and very easy to install Chinese Input system, why can Mandrake not sort this out ? I think because the developer of the Chinese input system are not Chinese, and therefore don't understand .

hi awtoc,

to get english interface while u can still enter chinese character by just pressing Ctrl-Space, please refer to post#29 (in page 2).

I That I know, but I still can not get it to work, perhaps I have some problems with the locale file ?

(So I guess I'm the biggest idiot in the forum since everyone else seems to think RH9 is a snap.)

I looked at the keyboard layout page and regional settings on the Control Center; I've added the languages Korean and Chinese on the available languages.

I then went to the keyboard layout to add more keyboard layouts, and Korean and Chinese are the only two languages that aren't there. It has Japanese and Thai and even Mongolian, but there's no Korean or Chinese. Is this some kind of cruel joke?

Any help is appreciated.

Dan.

hey Dan,

not the biggest idiot, I am sure...but your question is a good one: there is no regular keyboard layout for Korean or Chinese because these use an IME type program which allow you to enter with pinyin or the various and many other types of character input for such multi-byte languages...

Chinese uses such programs as xcin, chinput, scim, fcitx etc. and Korean uses ami (that i know of, there are guaranteed to be more available for linux).

jdw

Hi if you can get the Chinese to work in MDK 9.2 without re-writting the OS, and spending days modifying this and modifying that, and changing this script and that script, you would win the first price, and a Gold medal.
Mandrake is French.
Try Redhat 9.0 or Fedora that works every time.

Whoa whoa whoa!

Don't go bagging Mandrake, it works just fine. I am using mdk9.2 and haven't had any problems setting up and using fcitx 2.0 as a simplified Chinese input tool...

The reason i personally don't use RH is that from version 7.2 through 9.0 it has never wanted to play with my sound card (Creative Vibra 128, hardly obscure hardware!), which is a pain coz I love listening to music while I tinker...and after more painful hours of reading and trying this and that to get it going I gave up...

But you won't catch me having a go at RH, coz it is good for lots of things. Just like Mandrake. I like the languages setup options at login on RH, it is a good job, but I can type Chinese easily in mandrake as well...

I actually had RH9 installed on another partition, but I found that more and more it was just left neglected because it had no real advantage over MDK as a desktop home-grown PC OS...matter of taste and subjective opinion no doubt...

But sorry, I will not stand idly by and have Mandy insulted so...

jdw

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Don't go bagging Mandrake, it works just fine. I am using mdk9.2 and haven't had any problems setting up and using fcitx 2.0 as a simplified Chinese input tool...
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I know what you are saying, but like I said fcitx 2.0 is not a Mandrake script, it is a thirth party, unlike RH9 where you just at the installation time configure the extra languages, and bang it works first time WITHOUT lots of downloading and fiddling.

I'm now using Redhat enterprise and it is even better than RH9 - redhat enterprise and mandrake is like trying to compare BMW 750 to a Renault 5

Hi,

It just took me less than 5 minutes to download and install fcitx 2.01, pretty easy with a "rpm -Uvh fcitx.xxxx.rpm" command, you must agree...the only other thing I had to do was create a new user for Chinese mode and append appropriate (zh_CN) locale settings the .bashrc file, which only took a couple of minutes and was pretty damn easy as well...

I also just used the incredibly simple drakfont tool to load my nice Windows fonts into linux, so ease of use is definitely to be found in all sorts of places in Mandrake...

Redhat Enterprise edition sounds pretty good, but one question about having to load third party stuff etc., does it ship out of the box with mp3 support? An absolute must for a music lover's home PC...i'm sure that getting mp3 support in RH9 is just as fun as getting Chinese support going in Mandrake.

My point is that Mandrake is pretty good for non-guru type folk like me...it makes lots of things easy to do and setup, but of course you can do these things manually or the "hard way" if you still want to...

One thing Linux has over other OS's is that there is a huge variety of distributions to suit all tastes, preferences and skill levels.

jdw

Hi JDW I will let you know if RH enterprise was shipped with mp3, as I'm only using compuer for office work, and as server, I'm not really sure, but when I get to th eoffice I will let you know.

So which distro is the best for a beginner ? I'm asking as I have a friend here who want to get started with Linux, but RH is to complicated for him, so I was trying to suggest SuSE, but I don't have any experience with SuSe, I have some experience with Mandrake, but much more with RH 8 or RH 9.
When I tried Mandrake it also froze lots of time, and and in Mozilla's e-mail system, it froze many times, the truth is that I in one year never had to re-install RH nor did it ever freze up, it only worked and worked.

Hi,

Well that's the difference. RH is tailor-made more for the business user, i'm just using mine at home where i think Mandrake excels as a desktop option...and i haven't had crash problems since MDK 8.0 or 8.1 (or since i dumped Windows ME for that matter ;-)

I think we will have to agree to disagree...

cheers,

jdw

P.S. fcitx 2.01 is great for simplified input!!! it has nice improvements with every release...

I was told another way to use Japanese input in Linux. You can use it in any wm/de and it works like a dream. I owe a lot to the bloke who showed me how.

Anyway, make sure you install files for a Japanese Language Environment (fonts, canna, kinput2 are necessary). In your .xsession make sure you have the line:
Make sure the cannaserver runs at startup (it normally does). Also make sure you have ja_JP.eucJP enabled as one of the locales.

Now, make a script (call it ja), and in it has the following line of text:
Now, if cannaserver is on, kinput2-canna (or kinput2 -canna) is running and the ja_JP.eucJP locale is present, you can easily use Japanese input into any x app (some won't accept it) by pressing Shift+Space.
Like this: じゃ、見て！

Perhaps a similar way exists for Chinese input too (so you don't need to make another user).

Also, you can load program up by making an alias (or symlink) to where ever you saved the ja script and running ja and another program.

Eg:
user@host:~$ ja mozilla

No need to put an ampersand, as the ampersand in the script does it for you.


Sorry, I kinda clicked the quote button instead of the edit on the previous post. Sorry >_<