How can I get over 60hz?

r3dhatter · 05-15-2004, 09:13 AM

I am running debian testing, and installed the nvidia drivers. Then I edited the x86conf file for horizontal to be 30-95 and vertical to be 50-160. I still cannot get over 60hz with a 1280x1024 resolution.

Are there any programs or anything that will override the kde display program to raise the 60hz? I have gone over before when I was using fedora and with mandrake. Not sure why it is a problem now. I am using kde 3.2.

Any suggestions at all are welcome. Please, because 60hz isn't too good on the eyes..

After I get this problem fixed, all should be well because I will have gotten over all the speed bumps.

Thanks

Jimbo99 · 05-15-2004, 11:18 AM

In the kde control panel go to the size/orientation section and click the drop down and select the refresh rate.

BTW, there's alot of incompleteness for options under linux, so even though the higher refresh rates might not be listed it is due mostly to the lack of completeness under linux.

EyesOnly · 05-15-2004, 11:33 AM

The kde-control panel will only list the resolutions and refreshrates that are specified in your X-window configurationfile.

So when you miss an option here, it is not KDE that is incomplete here.. It is the user itself, that didn't specify all the possible combinations

maybe 'xvidtune' can help here. You can set settings for your monitor/videocard here, and test them right away.

Jimbo99 · 05-15-2004, 12:04 PM

The problem is that if he is using KDE and the options are selected to have KDE set the resolution nothing he sets in those other files will solve his problem of getting a higher refresh rate. He would need to deselect those options.

And again, a perfect example of the incompleteness factor in linux.

EyesOnly · 05-15-2004, 12:11 PM

no, not really..

those settings will only apply when you chose them to: there is a checkbox under those options in the KDE-config.(which is off by default, by the way)
If you don't have this option on, KDE will not change your screen-settings

On my system i can only chose a refreshrate of 100Hz in the KDE-config thing, nothing else. Why? because that's the only modeline i've defined in my xf86config.

Jimbo99 · 05-15-2004, 02:05 PM

I have to agree to disagree. Linux is in a bad state of incompleteness. When it comes to video, sound, and chipsets linux has alot of work to do. Linux is hurting pretty bad in that regard. The vast majority of hardware manufacturers don't provide even basic driver support. Driver installation is convoluted and, at best, problemmatic. If you can get them to work from kernel to kernel you're pretty lucky or very knowledgeable (which is NOT the case with 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of all PC users (be they Windows, Linux, Macintosh, etc)).

As for KDE, if he doesn't understand that KDE will override his other settings then he needs to know where to look and what to change so that it doesn't.

r3dhatter · 05-15-2004, 04:48 PM

"As for KDE, if he doesn't understand that KDE will override his other settings then he needs to know where to look and what to change so that it doesn't."

Anyone happen to know what ways there are to override kde?

I tried xvidtune and checked that box in kde-config but it still didn't work. And I know how to setup my xf86conf file so that I should be able to go over 60hz but kde is overriding it for some strange reason....

Any suggestions welcome on how to fix the problem..thanks

Shade · 05-15-2004, 10:51 PM

KDE has nothing to do with your screen size, resolution, and refresh rate.

It simply runs on top of XFree86. When you change things from KDE, all it does is make changes to your /etc/X11/XF86Config.

Let's not be spreading misinformation here. KDE overrides nothing (as far as X settings go...), so there's no reason for you to override it. Rather than going off on a tangent here, guys, why don't we help?

What version of X are you running, what kind of vid card, and what driver are you using? If you're using the generic Vesa driver, then 60hz may be the best you can get.

--Shade

r3dhatter · 05-15-2004, 11:33 PM

I think I have 4.3 or 4.4 of x, whatever the latest version for debian testing is. I am using an Nvidia Ti4200 8x agp with nvidia drivers that are currently working great. The only way I can get a higher refresh rate is if I go to a lower resolution which is ok I guess...1152x864 @ 75hz. The only thing I don't like about a lower res is how kdm always has to black out to go from a higher res to lower. I am not sure how to change kdm resolution. Anyone happen to know how to change kdm resolution? If I did that I might be better off than trying get it over 60hz...

Thanks, and thanks for getting down to the point Shade

bulliver · 05-16-2004, 04:34 AM

r3dhatter: you're still missing the point, all of your resolution settings are configured from the X server, no matter what front-end you may have to edit them. Kde, kdm, gnome, fluxbox or whatever else can only use the settings ultimately provided by the X server, and XF86Config. If you press [ctrl][alt] + [+] or [-] it will cycle through the resolutions specified in XF86Config.

As for you refresh rate, I have to admit I'm no X guru, but can't you just edit the "VertRefresh" line in XF86Config to a static value?

From XF86Config:

Quote:

# VertRefresh may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a
# comma separated list of ranges of values.

So:

Code:

    VertRefresh 75, 80

See what will work for you....

Jimbo99: if you want to troll, why not start your own thread, he's just trying to get some help here.

EyesOnly · 05-16-2004, 04:39 AM

right, sorry for getting a little oftopic here.

for me it helped to place a single modeline in my xf86config, like this:

Code:

 # 1024x768 @ 100Hz, 80.21 kHz hsync
Modeline "1024x768"   115.5  1024 1056 1248 1440  768  771  781  802 -HSync -VSync

X will now first try this mode. If that fails, it will pick its own(which was 85 Hz in my case)

Here i placed some of the standard modelines for a 1280x1024 resolution. They work for my monitor/vid.

Code:

# 1280x1024 @ 87 Hz interlaced, 51 kHz hsync
Modeline "1280x1024"   80    1280 1296 1512 1568  1024 1025 1037 1165 Interlace
# 1280x1024 @ 61 Hz, 64.2 kHz hsync
Modeline "1280x1024"  110    1280 1328 1512 1712  1024 1025 1028 1054
# 1280x1024 @ 70 Hz, 74.59 kHz hsync
Modeline "1280x1024"  126.5 1280 1312 1472 1696  1024 1032 1040 1068 -HSync -VSync
# 1280x1024 @ 74 Hz, 78.85 kHz hsync
Modeline "1280x1024"  135    1280 1312 1456 1712  1024 1027 1030 1064
# 1280x1024 @ 76 Hz, 81.13 kHz hsync
Modeline "1280x1024"  135    1280 1312 1416 1664  1024 1027 1030 1064
# 1280x1024 @ 85 Hz, 91.15 kHz hsync
Modeline "1280x1024"  157.5  1280 1344 1504 1728  1024 1025 1028 1072 +HSync +VSync
# 1280x1024 @ 100 Hz, 107.16 kHz hsync
Modeline "1280x1024"  181.75 1280 1312 1440 1696  1024 1031 1046 1072 -HSync -VSync

Pick the one you want, and place it in your xf86config. should work

EDIT: bulliver was a little earlier than me

. the vertrefresh thing is indeed a better idea, since X will then calculate it's own optimal modelines from the given frequencys.

r3dhatter · 05-16-2004, 08:10 AM

Thanks guys. I got it at 1152x864 @ 75 hz so that works for me. According to my monitor specs it can't go past 60hz at 1280x1064 even though it did 72hz on fedora...strange, but I will leave it be because I still got it past 60hz now. Thanks