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Old 01-12-2005, 09:39 AM   #1
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Question Help with KDE crashes ...


I'm currently running Mandrake 10.0 on my PC. However, due to a series of recent events, I got a new PC. Naturally, since my old HD wasn't damaged, I just moved it over to the new PC, set it up as the master drive, and the one that came with the PC to be a slave drive. Rebooted, and Linux comes up fine.

However, my girlfriend uses a KDE desktop and now, everytime something from KDE closes (the screen saver, konquerer, konsole, ...), there it crashes. Not hard, just a pop-up window stating what it was that crashed (causes a signal 11, SIGSEGV). It has an option for a traceback, but it always comes back with a message stating that it was unable to trace back to the problem.

As it is only a pop-up (and some core files that are easy enough to clean off), it is more of an annoyance than anything, but I would like to get rid of it if I can. I've looked through a core dump, but wasn't able to find anything that suggested to me what the problem was.

Since I'm using new hardware, do I need to re-compile the kernel (I realise that I should, just haven't had the time to do it properly yet), or is this an issue with KDE itself? Can it be corrected by re-installing KDE? I realise that I could re-install Mandrake, but would rather not have to re-install the entire system just to clear up this one little problem. (One of those reasons why MS is running on anything in my house right now.)

Anyway, if anyone has seen this before, or has an idea as to what it could be, please let me know. If any more information is needed, please just let me know what, and I'll get it as soon as I can. Thanks.

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Old 01-12-2005, 09:52 AM   #2
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A-HA-HA-HA!!! Mandrake? A-HA-HA-HA! You wonder why it fails??? Didn't u notice that it's as easy as Windows? And it fails as often as Windows, even, IMHO, more frequently? Send your Mandrake to Bill Gates! He'll like that stupid distro. USE SLACKWARE!!! It's the best and the clearest distro!!!

PS: HEY, ALL NEWBIES! REMEMBER: Mandrake is another Windows! TELL ME, WHY DO YOU NEED ANOTHER WINDOWS? Just to say "Yo! I've got Linux!"? This for? That's useless. LINUX is for WORK, Windows is for GAMES. CLEAR?
But Mandrake is for NUTHIN! (no games, no stable work)
 
Old 01-12-2005, 09:57 AM   #3
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if it's only KDE i would think it's only KDE.
I've changed hardware before and never compiled.
Last year i did mboard, chip the lot.

maybe try with re-loading KDE ?
 
Old 01-12-2005, 10:06 AM   #4
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You shouldn't need to recompile the kernel (unless you compiled it on your old machine, in which case the new hardware could cause some instabilities). I would try reinstalling KDE.

First though, try creating another dummy user running KDE, and log in. See if this user has the same problems. If not, you might try going in as root, and renaming your girlfriend's ".kde" directory to something else. Then, the next time she logs ion, a new .kde directory will be created for her, which *might* clear up the problems.
 
Old 01-12-2005, 11:38 AM   #5
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Originally posted by kornerr
A-HA-HA-HA!!! Mandrake? A-HA-HA-HA! You wonder why it fails??? Didn't u notice that it's as easy as Windows? And it fails as often as Windows, even, IMHO, more frequently? Send your Mandrake to Bill Gates! He'll like that stupid distro. USE SLACKWARE!!! It's the best and the clearest distro!!!

PS: HEY, ALL NEWBIES! REMEMBER: Mandrake is another Windows! TELL ME, WHY DO YOU NEED ANOTHER WINDOWS? Just to say "Yo! I've got Linux!"? This for? That's useless. LINUX is for WORK, Windows is for GAMES. CLEAR?
But Mandrake is for NUTHIN! (no games, no stable work)

Thank you, Kornerr for all of the useful information that you provided. I'd like to say that I am NOT a newbie (UNIX system administrator for nearly six years, and have been running Mandrake for nearly a year), and that I've not had any problems with Mandrake. At all. Just this small problem with KDE (haven't noticed it under GNOME).

As for using Linux at work, I'm responsible for beginning our project (a USAF financial system) to look towards Linux as a viable platform (currenly under Solaris). I'm also a bit of a programmer at heart, and have been poking around Glade, QT3, and most recently MySQL/PHP on laptop (I've actually managed to set up a nine table database that I can pull information out of using PHP. Impressive? Maybe not, but I don't feel that I'm doing all that bad given that I've never really worked with either before two days ago ...)

I chose to use Linux because I could not see the sense in spending the kind of money that MS asks for in order to upgrade from Windows 98 to XP just to have their EULA shoved down my throat and an operating system that uses 'rebooting the system' or worse 're-load the system' in order to correct every problem that should occur. Under Linux, I can actually poke around and fix any problems that I come across. It was in no way to make myself look "cool".


And a true Thank You for both bigearsbilly and Padma for actually providing assistance and possible solutions to this problem (I'll let you know what works).

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Old 01-13-2005, 07:58 AM   #6
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Unfortunately, neither suggestion worked. I created a new dummy user, and he too experienced the same problems when he logged in. After that didn't work, I un-installed everything from KDE and re-installed it, and unfortunately, the problem persists.

I'll go and poke around for a bit and can hopefully find something out there that I missed the first time I looked for help. And I'll check back to see if there are any other suggestions.

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Old 01-13-2005, 08:03 AM   #7
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Ignore him, he wants attention.

Is it just KDE or all WMs?
I had some WM trouble with freezing.
You got a GeForce?

First off, try turning off acpi
maybe in the BIOS.

That solved my fereezing graphics.
 
Old 01-13-2005, 12:16 PM   #8
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He's ignored, though I hoped to point out to him that just because someone has a problem and very few posts (such as I) are not necessarily newbies. I did put him on ignore though as I'm after useful information when I come out to LQ.

It only seems to be KDE. When I run under GNOME, I don't see the problems (though I didn't run any KDE programs while I was there). As for my Video card, I do believe that it is a SiS card, though I'm not entirely sure. It came with the eMachines that I got. I did have a problem with it and my nVidia card when I first booted up (got a nice black screen and nothing else). Turns out that they were conflicting. When I get the chance (which unfortunately isn't often at home), I plan on going into the BIOS and turning off that card so that I can put my GeoForce back into so that I can play what few 3D games I do have (you know, Tux Racer, NWN). I did manage to dig up another thread here about this same problem, and it looked like it had to do with incompatible nVidia driver problems. And since they were compiled to work on the old system, that could well be the problem.

I'm hoping to have enough time over the weekend to switch out the video cards, re-compile the kernel for the new machine (I'd compiled on the old one trying to get an ATI card to work on my system), and then re-doing the nVidia drivers on the new system. Though I don't think I'll have the time for all that this weekend either.

Thanks for the suggestion though, bigearsbilly. I'm sure this is a little problem that can be worked through. As I said, I've been running Mandrake for nearly a year, and (other than ATI and my winmodem), this is the only real problem that I've had.

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