Well i've spent all day obviously
Why should this be "obvious" to us?
whom ever thought of these applications and thought it was easy needs to be pulled up in the street and shot!
In civilised countries (and I currently live in one) we do not shoot people because their (free) software does not instantly work as well as we might wish.
Whoever wrote these applications presumably did so to meet a (perceived) need for these applications (Thank you Developers!!). They are not charging you for their time, or their software applications and you are not paying anything for them. They are truly "free".
I do not recall anyone saying "it was easy" but sometimes the installation and setup is straightforward, and sometimes it is not. If you think you can write better and easier-to-use software yourself, then you are free to do so: the community will appreciate your efforts. But you will not be paid, anymore than they, or we are. They, and we, are collaborating on this project because we think it will ultimately be useful
I do understand your frustration at not being able to get things to work, as you want, and immediately, but I find that a little calmness helps.
i've had a gut full of this everytime i think i'm getting somewhere i get no where
If, instead of having a general moan, you told us what you are trying to achieve, and how, and the error messages you received, then we might be able to help you better.
? You are getting free support here. We are doing our best for you, but this is apparently insufficient for your needs. Meanwhile your posts are all rant and scant information so it is difficult for us to help you to help yourself.
Have you read this link?
Please read all
of it. Then come back, you'll be welcome.
[Aside] Does your keyboard lack the Shift
key? For example: "i" as in "I've" is usually capitalised. Sloppy punctuation = sloppy mind = unlikely to be comfortable with linux [/Aside]