Since no specific group for Gentoo, I'll try it here (search is not responding to gentoo -- never comes back).


Gentoo universal CD + packages CD, 2004.3

By-the-book, literally -- I printed it and punched it into binder !

Note that I am typing & sending this in Windows, thus some data may be off a *little*, since Gentoo doesn't work.


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stage 1 install :
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Tried mirrorselect -a & -i, both: with & without -bX

emerge --sync only finds raven, raptor, heron, hawk, crane, & cockatoo servers, no matter what.
First server hit in a given run gets to about app-admin/?/io.c, at which point it gives code 30 at line 109 & code 12 at line 189 and times out, follow-on servers give nothing except list-of-files.

emerge-webrsync finds one server, I forget which. Says no md5's available at all, and quits.


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stage 3 install :
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same, even after I 'select with -o -i & -b10, picking ~12 *new* servers & retrying ~11 times.
(Yes I mean that 'emerge --sync' hits the same 6 servers, or rather 4 of them per run, ignoring the servers I selected, or, retrying 11 times, -a -s12, recycles through same old 6.)

emerge-webrsync finally found a server *I* told it to find, apparently worked, but... emerge --sync performed per previous paragraph, except different files fetched, still the "io.c" errors above.

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Rebooted to hdisk.

Still can't get anything else, except one-at-a-time, and that has trouble.

Can compile bzImage, can NOT compile modules without crash; seg-fault in various files, kernel panic in others.

(SuSE 9.0 on target drive for ~10 months can compile anything, far more in a row than required to crash Gentoo-compiles, but oldconfig-bzImage does not match booted kernel, thus I will NOT patch-&c. Otherwise, SuSE runs fine, always, no matter what the load.)

And yes I dotted all the 'i's that I know of, in all above; 20+ years programming and everything else; I *do* know how to RTFM & *follow* it.


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Hardware &c......:
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Shuttle AN35N 400 Ultra+MCP mobo w/nVidia nForce2 chip ~6 months old. Never gets over ~45c.

AMD XP 2700+, never gets over 51C, and that only once -- otherwise never over 47c.

NO over-/under- -clock/-voltage.

1GB Centon RAM, as 512+256+256. www.simmtester.com for 12 hours no errors, repeatedly.

Maxtor 30G hda. (Testing hd; will only fornicate with 'real' 120G when all works RIGHT.)

ATI All-In-Wonder 9600 video 128MB, AGP8

Sound Blaster Live Value PCI

3Com '3c59x' NIC, PCI

On-board Realtek sound & nic both turned off.

All BIOS parms set for precisely what I have. Precisely.
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Netgear RP114 (updated) router between nic & Westell modem to phone-co (bellsouth) DSL 1.5m/256k.
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Drive-parts:
1) 512M dos
2) 200M linux boot
3) ~5.5G Win98/f32
4) (extended)
5) 1G unused Linux (all-in-one)
6) 15M hidden dos
7) 15M dos
8) ~1G f32
9) ~1G f32
10) 1G swap
11) linux /, to end of drive; 20G.
grub in 2).
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Partitions & router are NOT negotiable!

I NEED correct ATI drivers to get *ALL* functionality avail on video card.
I NEED Win4Lin (for W98se under linux to solve native-mode issues).
I intend other things, but these two are NOT negotiable, or else I'll just have to keep running Wunnerful-Hic!-Winders98SE-HIC!!.

**POSSIBLE** that the 30G hd is bad, but I doubt, rest of machine is as solid as a planet.

Why crashes & ignoring selected servers?

PLEASE help!

Thank you,
Robert G. Hays

hi there,

just some thoughts about your problem. hope it helps.
did you check your media? with md5sum or something similar?
i would put direct some mirrors in the make.conf file.
mirroselect is an useful thing if you have no idea what is going on about gentoo in your region.
in my case, living in southern Germany i have in my /etc/make.conf file
which works great. fast and stable.
how you select them?

another point is an rsysnc mirror. here you should be carefull.
i would suggest using the "official" one:
hope gives you some light.

regards

slackie1000

No, mirrorselect is a waste of time.

If you want support on Gentoo, go to forums.gentoo.org - it's excellent.
Documentation is on www.gentoo.org.

hi there,

i expressed myself bad.
if you don't have an idea about mirrors in your region i think "mirrorselect" can help. of course you will spend a lot of bandwidth and time. but that is the price.
he also wrote that he printed the handbook, so probably he was already at www.gentoo.org.
if you feel safe, get a mirror from here add to your /etc/make.conf and be happy. but i still think that mirrorselect can help the process - and that is why it is still in the installation handbook.
but, as always, this is just my

regards

slackie1000

I have never had a successful run of mirrorselect - it has only ever added trash to make.conf.
Given that the question was asked here, I presumed the handbook was printed from the CD, rather than the site.

Who knows

Robert,

First, I'd make sure that you can actually get to the internet before you look anywhere else (or a GRP - stage 3 solution might have to be the answer). Use net-setup, as the first lines on the install screen say to do. If you can't seem to get the connection via DHCP, try using a static IP, using your router as the gateway and DNS server. Then, ifconfig to see if your ethernet card is actually seen and been assigned an IP.

I'd then either ping http://www.gentoo.org or fire up links and go there. I usually follow the manual from the site as I go along. That way, I know that I'm connected.

I've never printed the manual (don't have a printer) so that's the way I've been doing it from the first time. Good luck. Ask more if you have to.

thank you all for replying

slackie1000:
not only did I check the md5's before burning, but also I recaptured the images from he CD'd to hdisk, and did binary compare between the original download & the re-captured images!

<how do you select them?>
"mirrorselect -i -o -b10 >> /etc/make.conf", -o sends clean output to the >>file, -b10 says to group ip-requests into blocks of 10 to avoid problems if some router (like my netgear!) balks at over 40 at once, & -i gives a curses-derived list of all servers found & you check-box the ones you want to use to put them into the -output. I chose several times centering around 12 (all USA where I am, and I know some of them are quite good for other downloads), and you have to add the line:
RSYNC_RETRIES="x",
where 'x' is a digit-or-two, before the 'GENTOO_MIRRORS' line, so it will try more than the default 4 servers.

Didn't know about the rsync://&c. Thanks!


syg00:
Why waste of time? -- OH!, ok

May re-try forums.gentoo.org... Thanks!

Both above:
Yes, prnted from the CD.
Yes, both URL's were *well* visited!

vectordrake:
Yes, had IP; could ping sites like www.hpiracing.com (r/c model cars, me & my handicapped leg are into that)... Setup is indeed router-as-gateway-&-nameserver. Curious note!: CD lived fine as dhcp, but I had to hard-192.&c things after booting the hdisk! Strange...

BTW, kernel -mcpu=i686 2.6.11-gentoo-r4, I think is what came on the CD.

I can't speak for anyone who uses genkernel, as I've never gone that route (my hardware doesn't change a lot and I know exactly what it all is), but I'm thinking that perhaps your HD install needs dhcpd enabled at boot. Read up the section of the handbook about rc-update if you haven't already added it:for example.

From 2004.3 you have to emerge hdcp yourself - it's in the newer handbooks (hint, the online one is *always* current), but not the one I had printed a couple of months earlier. Yes, I got caught on a re-build.

Assign a static IP to get online, then go get your favourite. Once emerged, DHCP should work as advertised.

vectordrake:
genkernel: thank you, I was already warned to avoid gk by someone on either the Win4Lin or Gentoo mailing list, but more people agreeing on something always gives more confidence!

Thank you also for the tip on how to get dhcp running after the hd-boot... I do not *absolutely* require it since I have a router playing host here, but it *is* nice.

syg00:
Also thanks for the dhcp info!

both:
I have decided that, *just* possibly, the 30GHD *might* not be able to keep up with the dma-rate from the 2~~3 years newer mobo (I *did* see a dma-glitch, I *did*, I *did*!!), so I am going to add "ide=nodma" to the the boots while I use this 30 as a test-bed,

Possibly more importantly, I have a NetGear router sitting on top of the dsl-modem, and its management pages do Not ofer to tell me what the nameservers it itself uses are. So I called my ISP, got that data (& recorded it in a textfile to not lose!), and I am going to put that into the system for this next try.

Thank you both!,

Solved --

-- hard-IPA for networking & some fancy work with mirrorselect & its output

-- drive WAS having problems, gave kernel commandline ide=nodma

-- ati solved elsewhere in LQ; thread started by me.