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Old 09-19-2009, 12:11 AM   #1
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Experiences with FC11


Okay, this is another "what's your opinion" post, so here we go. I have used fedora as my primary or some time now, and never have I had such a horrid experience as with FC11. I hear great reports and horrid reports. I can only hope FC12 is better. My favorite version of all time was FC9.
Linux has always been stable for me, but even a clean install of FC11 is hell. Your opinions?
 
Old 09-19-2009, 01:03 AM   #2
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Okay, this is another "what's your opinion" post, so here we go. I have used fedora as my primary or some time now, and never have I had such a horrid experience as with FC11. I hear great reports and horrid reports. I can only hope FC12 is better. My favorite version of all time was FC9.
Linux has always been stable for me, but even a clean install of FC11 is hell. Your opinions?
I haven't had any problems at all with Fedora 11. Smooth sailing. I think your inquiry is going to depend to a great extent on people's systems -- those with a lot of resources and that have high-speed connections, that are upgraded frequently, are obviously going to have fewer difficulties.
 
Old 09-19-2009, 02:56 AM   #3
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F11 works Ok for me, except for power management. (It worked perfectly in F9 BTW). I am not impressed with pulse audio, but I expect that these problems with audio will also be eventually ironed out. I also expect that my power management problems will also be resolved.

This is what happens though, when you use "bleeding edge" software such as Fedora. It is after all a quickly developing operating system and as such there will always be areas where there will be horrendous problems for some people and others will find that they have no problems at all. I use Fedora because I like to be on the bleeding edge and get the latest updates/technologies as soon as possible.

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Old 09-19-2009, 04:54 PM   #4
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This is what happens though, when you use "bleeding edge" software such as Fedora.
Yes, I know, and it's getting worse. If this does not fix soon, I'm going back to mandrake, wow, have not used mandrake in years. Memories, memories.

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Old 09-19-2009, 04:56 PM   #5
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BTW, anyone try KDE4.3? is is any good? I hated 4.1, I miss KDE3.
 
Old 09-22-2009, 03:32 PM   #6
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Hola,

I use FC11 in dual boot with my xp box. Audio , video , power mgmt. , Internet configuration etc. almost in every major part I'm facing this or that issue. Just for the sake of being a previous RHEL user I'm using this.
BDW I installed FC11 by live cd.

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Old 09-22-2009, 08:04 PM   #7
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As mentioned, F11 (they dropped the 'Core' around v6 or 7 iirc) is deliberately bleeding edge. Each version only lasts 13 mths.
It's RH's R&D distro. If you want RH style, but free and long term stable, go Centos.
I did...
 
Old 09-23-2009, 02:04 AM   #8
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As mentioned, F11 (they dropped the 'Core' around v6 or 7 iirc) is deliberately bleeding edge. Each version only lasts 13 mths.
It's RH's R&D distro. If you want RH style, but free and long term stable, go Centos.
I did...
I have just been deploying a Centos system with a custom kernel for a dedicated system. We are building a candidate target environment and a matching development environment.

I cannot recommend it, at all.

A LOT of the packages are way out of date. I don't think gtkmm-2.4 has been updated since about 2005, and it is waaaaay behind the curve. My code wouldn't even compile on it; the builder interface isn't there at all. Ditto gtk+-2.0, though we were able to get the source for a recent version to compile (we couldn't get recent gtkmm source to compile).

I deployed net-snmp, and had to download and build the source from net-snmp because the Centos version is out of date, and my code is using some recent calls and needs version 5.3 or later. In fact, Centos has snmp version 5.4 available only as an svn file.

The gcc suite is still at version 4.1, while I have been developing on 4.3.

Package after package is way behind the curve, though these are the only ones that bit me on this deployment. The kernel is pretty much up to date, but so much else isn't. I don't know what the problem with the distro is, but I have to say it bit me pretty hard.
 
Old 09-24-2009, 05:29 AM   #9
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i am also experiencing the same problem on CentOS 5.3.....mostly packages are out-dated and no updates are available for them :@......can u suggest me which distro i shud switch to??? so tht i can move all my servers to tht distro....keeping the following facts in mind

the distro should have
  • frequent updates
  • updates should be stable
  • closest to CentOS environment(directory structure,commands etc)

em very used to the CentOS environment but experiencing some problems regarding package updates......
 
Old 09-24-2009, 06:09 PM   #10
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I use Mandriva. I also use Fedora. Both are structurally similar, which figures since both started as forks of Redhat.
 
Old 09-24-2009, 08:50 PM   #11
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Just to be clear, RH (=> Centos) backports a lot of updates to its pkgs, but often does not update the main/minor version numbers. You have to look at the patch nums and change / release notes.
IOW, pkgs may or may not have the fns you need, but you can't use the version nums to decide.
 
Old 09-24-2009, 11:11 PM   #12
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i am also experiencing the same problem on CentOS 5.3.....mostly packages are out-dated and no updates are available for them :@......can u suggest me which distro i shud switch to??? so tht i can move all my servers to tht distro.
Go to Fedora 10, it's the best version so far. I am on a PPC eMac G4 running it now.
My main desktop runs it, too. It's still available on the Fedora mirrors, but in the show me all options thing.
The theme is not that bad either, especially the plymouth boot theme. P.S. Nice footer message!
 
Old 09-24-2009, 11:12 PM   #13
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ok if i change my question to...."Regardless of the updates problem..To which distro should i switch considering the facts which i have mentioned above???"
 
Old 09-24-2009, 11:14 PM   #14
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As mentioned, F11 (they dropped the 'Core' around v6 or 7 iirc) is deliberately bleeding edge. Each version only lasts 13 mths.
It's RH's R&D distro. If you want RH style, but free and long term stable, go Centos.
I did...
I know they dropped the core part of the name at version 7, but it still feels more complete calling it that. 7 was my second favorite version, but it's kinda old now.

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Old 09-24-2009, 11:14 PM   #15
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ok if i change my question to...."Regardless of the updates problem..To which distro should i switch considering the facts which i have mentioned above???"
Mandriva or suse, considering you have a rpm-liking.
 
  


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