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alrighty...I've been having problems using the su command on my laptop (running gentoo 1.4f). Everytime I su and return, it prompts for the password (which i type in properly) and then i get a silly little error message saying "permission denied. sorry." Now, i searched the forums and could come up with nothing, other than adding my username into the wheel group (at /etc/group, i believe) and changing permissions. Well, i tried changing permissions, no luck... tweaking got me nothing but the inability to even execute su, so i chmoded back to -x-rx-rx-r or something like that. I also tried adding my user to /etc/group. I changed the a line from "wheel::10:root" to "wheel::10:root,me (where me is my username)...which did SOMETHING...it changed my error from "permission denied. sorry." to "authentication failure. sorry." So, great...progress? I dunno. Regardless, keep in mind that I am not even doing this through a console program from some windowmanager (although, it does the same thing in eterm through enlightenment) I am using commandline straight up. Root login works fine. User login works fine. su just wont do it's job, though. please help me if possible, thanks.