I do not (and do not want to) have a Google Hangouts account. I use XMPP that, although not as popular as most social services, satisfies my needs.

Recently I have read the article "Google moves away from the XMPP open-messaging standard", about Google moving Gtalk out of XMPP a few years ago. In this article we have the paragraph:

Is this true today? If I give my XMPP account to a Hangout user will we be able to chat? Even if this is limited to textual chat, it is something I want to know - how to use my normal clients to talk to Hangout users.

As far as I'm aware you have hangouts whether you want to or not. I still use XMPP to chat with friends.

sag47, your answer is not clear for me. You use XMPP through your hangouts account, or using other servers, like I understood you (and as I use XMPP) ?

I do not have google hangouts because I do not have their account, and I don't even use their search engine (Duckduckgo is better, Yahoo, Bing, Yandex, Gigablast and a few other are sometimes used for harder searches. And even for such accounts we have the option to don't have all services together, if one do not want. It is hidden, it is not what they want, but it is there. A friend of mine have a gmail and youtube account, but no hangouts or plus profile that he directly do not want.

Sure I'll be more clear. I use google's XMPP service to chat with people on Google hangouts. I even have 2 factor auth enabled. You can't chat with people in google networks without a google account. That's a requirement.

I'm not sure where your confusion lies. What have you tried? Your question isn't very clear.

Have you tried to google, "google xmpp"? The first result is https://xmpp.org/2015/03/no-its-not-...r-google-talk/

Sorry for being unclear.

I do not use Hangout (never did). Having a Google account is one for all, but not all "accounts" are "visible". Id est, without "activating" the Youtube account you won't have a "Youtube profile" (together, with quotes to change the obvious sense) shown there, like if no Google account existed. For youtube and google plus this is true, I did it for an account I had. I assumed that for hangouts the same is true, but maybe it isn't, and I don't want to test.

Today I have not tried Google + XMPP. I have fewer friends who use computers as much as me, and most of them won't use Hangouts, although they have a Google account. So, to test XMPP and Google together for me will not be a direct try, and I decided to ask here.

My perfect experiment would be adding an account such as someone@gmail.com (Hangouts have another domain, no domain, or what?) to my XMPP buddy list (for example, @jabber.org). If it works, it will be enough to use sometimes.

Before starting this thread I have read a few notices about XMPP (and also about Google's history with XMPP):

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/0...tant-messaging

https://www.fsf.org/blogs/sysadmin/g...ing-on-purpose

https://www.fsf.org/blogs/sysadmin/g...tant-messaging

http://www.zdnet.com/article/google-...ging-standard/

https://xmpp.org/2015/03/no-its-not-...r-google-talk/

http://www.pcworld.com/article/20398...-hangouts.html

Nonths ago XMPP with Google's accounts worked... but with many "it is outdated, change!" "warnings" for the user I did it with.

The first result in Google search engine is not a realiable truth. It changes for different people, different profiles and different accounts. Google's search results are a limited bubble of all known results for each of their users.

I have tried (weeks ago) to search such query in other services, and they suffice.

One thing I want to know that does not seem to be sag47 situation: if there is anyone using a not-Google XMPP account to talk with other people and their Google account, through their XMPP client, whatever it is.