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Old 10-16-2004, 11:23 AM   #1
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difference between a desktop and a window manager


i wonder whats the difference between a desktop and a window manager, they both do similar things
 
Old 10-16-2004, 11:44 AM   #2
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Gnome and KDE = desktop environments. These integrate their menuing systems, sound control, configuration, file associations and all that lush stuff in one single package along with their own... terminal emulator, text editor, web browser, mail client yada yada yada.

fluxbox and xfce = Window Manager. These put up a nice wallpaper, have a menu, give a window a title bar. generally not much else. you would tend to use third party apps to actually *DO* stuff.

long live window managers!
 
Old 11-08-2004, 03:12 PM   #3
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I was also wondering what the difference is between a desktop manager and window manager.

Can someone recommend a file manager or window manager? I was wondering if there are any window managers that have a few more features than Window Maker. I'm using Amigo Linux base on Slackware 9.1.

Also, what's the relationship between Window Manager and X11? I don't really understand the relationship.
 
Old 11-08-2004, 03:33 PM   #4
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Gnome and KDE = desktop environments. These integrate their menuing systems, sound control, configuration, file associations and all that lush stuff in one single package along with their own... terminal emulator, text editor, web browser, mail client yada yada yada.

fluxbox and xfce = Window Manager. These put up a nice wallpaper, have a menu, give a window a title bar. generally not much else. you would tend to use third party apps to actually *DO* stuff.

long live window managers!
Actually xfce is a desktop environment..

Essentially the difference is whether it has a "desktop".

Window managers simply display the windows and add window decorations and change background/cursor. To give you a better idea of this, just manually run X :1

That'll put an X server on F8 (if you've got one already on F7) then run xterm -display :1

Then switch over, you'll see xterm there, you'll have a (very ugly) cursor, but you can't move the window about, there's no background, no menus etc.

Desktop environments at their simplest are the combination of a file manager and a window environment.

KDE sint' a window manager, however kwin is. You can run that just a window manager if you want.

Similarily gnome is a combination of it's own window manager and nautilus.


For a window manager I recommend fluxbox, As for file managers, I don't get on with any of them.
 
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Also, what's the relationship between Window Manager and X11? I don't really understand the relationship.
X is just the server that displays stuff.
 
Old 11-09-2004, 05:26 PM   #6
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Actually xfce is a desktop environment..
For a window manager I recommend fluxbox, As for file managers, I don't get on with any of them.
Thanks for the information and recommendations. I'm just looking for something I can install on Slackware 9.1 that doesn't need any extra libraries.

I keep thinking that Window Maker is a GUI like the Explorer in Windows. lol!
 
Old 11-09-2004, 06:18 PM   #7
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Slackware 9.1 should have installed most window managers by default. (on disk1 if you skipped them the first time around).

although I think it's XFCE is perhaps outdated and it doesnt' have icewm or enlightenment.
 
  


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