Copying from floppy to HDD

futurist · 03-25-2003, 11:49 PM

To copy files from DOS format floppy to HDD, I found that it is slower in linux than Windows, WHY the transfer rate is slower ?

trickykid · 03-26-2003, 08:40 AM

How are you copying files to and from? What command are you using? Well, my guess would be a DOS formatted floppy works better on a DOS formatted filesystem, have you tried using a ext2 or whatever filesystem your using to format on a floppy and compare. How much time are we talking about here, a few seconds, minutes.. does it really matter? The first problem with people using Linux and only use to Windows is that they do too much comparing.. Linux isn't Windows.. get over it.

Tinkster · 03-26-2003, 02:58 PM

Maybe he just misses the copy dialog that pops
to 99% in a split second and then sits there for
a minute and a half for a full floppy in Windows?

Maybe he compares a second transfer, when all
files are cached :)

A floppies physical transfer rate is ~ 15K/s,
no matter what OS...

Cheers,
Tink

futurist · 03-26-2003, 06:12 PM

I read an article in web that linux can format 1.44MB floppy into 1.7 MB capacity, true or not ?

jayakrishnan · 03-27-2003, 12:02 AM

try it out and let us known

trickykid · 03-27-2003, 08:41 AM

I don't really remember when the last time I've used an actual 1.44MB floppy for anything useless.. seems so, ummm.. out of date per say ??

futurist · 03-27-2003, 09:38 AM

No, i like 1.44" floppy,
how often you type a word file >1.44MB? You don't!!!
it is still convenient to store it in 1.44 floppy.

Dell is silly to remove floppy from their new lines of products.

acid_kewpie · 03-27-2003, 10:03 AM

drew, it's "per se"

trickykid · 03-27-2003, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by futurist
Dell is silly to remove floppy from their new lines of products.

I think its a smart business move to save money and the mass amount of metal, plastic and other material used in making a floppy drive to put in a machine which probably the vast majority of people never use any longer.

Sorry Chris... but it does sound like "per say" .. . So that's how I'm gonna spell it cause I'm just a dumb hick from Texas.. hehe :P

Tinkster · 03-27-2003, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by trickykid
but it does sound like "per say" .. . So that's how I'm gonna spell it cause I'm just a dumb hick from Texas.. hehe :P

LOL ...

Here's one for youTricky ;)

Code:

         A Plan for the Improvement of English Spelling
                          by Mark Twain

        For example, in Year 1 that useless letter "c" would be dropped
to be replased either by "k" or "s", and likewise "x" would no longer
be part of the alphabet.  The only kase in which "c" would be retained
would be the "ch" formation, which will be dealt with later.  Year 2
might reform "w" spelling, so that "which" and "one" would take the
same konsonant, wile Year 3 might well abolish "y" replasing it with
"i" and Iear 4 might fiks the "g/j" anomali wonse and for all.
        Jenerally, then, the improvement would kontinue iear bai iear
with Iear 5 doing awai with useless double konsonants, and Iears 6-12
or so modifaiing vowlz and the rimeining voist and unvoist konsonants.
Bai Iear 15 or sou, it wud fainali bi posibl tu meik ius ov thi
ridandant letez "c", "y" and "x" -- bai now jast a memori in the maindz
ov ould doderez -- tu riplais "ch", "sh", and "th" rispektivli.
        Fainali, xen, aafte sam 20 iers ov orxogrefkl riform, wi wud
hev a lojikl, kohirnt speling in ius xrewawt xe Ingliy-spiking werld.

whansard · 03-27-2003, 03:01 PM

there were several old dos utilities that would allow to
you vary the number of tracks and sectors on a floppy
disk. fdformat was one.
the standard 1.4M floppy had 80 tracks and 18 sectors
per cylinder. Most floppy drives could handle 82 tracks
easily and some, 1 or 2 more. they could also handle
20 sectors per cylinder. the problem was that most
bioses had trouble with the weird floppies, and there
was a device driver, fdread.com, that you could load
to read the floppies.
fdformat t82 s20 i think was the syntax.
there was another utility that would format a floppy
around 1.7 megs, but i can't remember its name.
it just used a number of tracks and sectors that almost
any drive could handle.
i remember os/2 warp came on 1.7 meg formatted
floppies that couldn't be read under windows. they
used a different filesystem also.
i expect that if you used one of those old utilities to
format a floppy, and then, mke2fs on it, it would have
the larger capacity. I may try later today to see.

Tinkster · 03-27-2003, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by futurist
No, i like 1.44" floppy,
how often you type a word file >1.44MB? You don't!!!

That's right, because I don't use Word :}

But I agree with you that sometimes having
a floppy is handy ;) If it wasn't for my notebook
I'd probably carry my work home on a disk
sometimes, rather than burning it onto a RW ;)

Cheers,
Tink