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Old 04-20-2006, 08:34 AM   #1
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Connect to Telnet aix os server


Hi
I'm new here and to linux too...
But I'e tried some stuff.

So the problem is this
Im my company we have a aix server that has an program for stock managment and sales...
it is accessed with windows using a program called QVT/Term that emulates vt220 and other stuff...
the telnet program shows up fine here.

we also have other machines that are only used to input stock's, and they are some old 486DX and work fine with dos/netware that uses an application called tnvt220 to connect to our telnet server...

but now my boss asked me if there is other way to do that without the tnvt and netware, don't know for sure why.... anyway I started searching...

I can connect fine with ubuntu, damn small linux, and others, but it doesnt appear fine on all... only in ubuntu in the xterminal appear fine, other make wrapping (I think that's what it is)
DSL:
img136.imageshack.us/my.php?image=telnetdsl1em.png

ubuntu:
img110.imageshack.us/my.php?image=telnetubuntu2ex.png

Minix:
img95.imageshack.us/my.php?image=telnetminix7hb.png

sorry, can't put direct links until 3 posts ...

so, because it is for use with old machines I can't use ubuntu!!, so is there a way to put telnet screen right?

Actually I am treing some Linux that fits on a floppy, the best till now is Tomsrtbt that detects the nic. but i have to put theip manually cause it puts an ip 1.1.1.1...
toms.net/rb/

I think the problem is the vt220 emulation, I'm not sure...
any help would be appreciated

PS: sorry for my bad english
 
Old 04-21-2006, 02:50 AM   #2
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you may want to use ssh if security is an issue rather than telnet.
DSL sounds like the "only" choice if this needs to run on the 486DX,
or puppy linux, but have no recent experience on 486 to help

>>and work fine with dos/netware
Not broken? don't fix it

>>I can connect fine with ubuntu, damn small linux
from what sort of machine?

Is this what you are doing
486 + vt220 emulation + telnet ----> AIX server
and you want to replace to
486 + linux + telnet ----> AIX server
 
Old 04-21-2006, 04:11 AM   #3
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Emmanuel_uk
you may want to use ssh if security is an issue rather than telnet.
DSL sounds like the "only" choice if this needs to run on the 486DX,
or puppy linux, but have no recent experience on 486 to help

>>and work fine with dos/netware
Not broken? don't fix it

>>I can connect fine with ubuntu, damn small linux
from what sort of machine?
From vmware player... the problem here is that in ubuntu telnet shows fine but in dsl not.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Emmanuel_uk
Is this what you are doing
486 + vt220 emulation + telnet ----> AIX server
and you want to replace to
486 + linux + telnet ----> AIX server
yes

thanks for answering
 
Old 04-21-2006, 04:22 AM   #4
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You will never fit ubuntu on a 486, so this is just a proof of concept.

Try puppy linux with vmware?
Try DSL in framebuffer mode (it just look an issue with video driver)

vmware with good machine?
What I mean, is the video issue will still be there on the 486
Are they vesa?
 
Old 04-21-2006, 05:24 AM   #5
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i run vmware on a pentium 1000mhz.
but did u take a look at that pictures?

the problem is not a video issue, it is the lines messed up on dsl and in a shell.


i could connect to the telnet server with a floppy linux solution!!! but if i could fix the wrapped lines or watever I should call to it, if would be perfect...
 
Old 04-21-2006, 05:27 AM   #6
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well 3 posts, now i may put the links to the pictures
Wrong




Good:

Last edited by NapalmD; 04-21-2006 at 05:30 AM.
 
Old 04-21-2006, 07:20 AM   #7
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Am with you (easier to swap picture now)
Possibly something to do with terminal configuration files.

Sorry know too little about that to help at the minute about terminal configuration. I hope I have helped to clarify the problem for other helpers.

PS: my question about video were that I was not sure how you
would get this working on the 486.

There is something called the linux thin client project.
Maybe relevant to your needs?
 
Old 04-21-2006, 08:26 AM   #8
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yes i've tried also thin client...
one called 2X PXES, tried on vmware it can boot to connect to variours terminals like vnc and w2kterminal..
it can also boot to an simple desktop where i can access the terminal i tried connect with telnet and worked fine like ubuntu, but I don't know how to customize this better...
anyway in shell mode it doesn' work weell...

thanks anyway for the help
 
Old 04-21-2006, 08:44 AM   #9
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I wish I could have helped you more, but I am out of my depth now

Keys and Linux Terminal Configuration
http://www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/...gterminal.html

There is also a terminfo command in the man pages

Hope somebody else can help. And if you solve it, you can post back here.

I suggest you wait 48 to 72h, if nothing new ask
the moderator to move the thread to
Other *NIX Forums > AIX
 
Old 06-23-2006, 05:03 AM   #10
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So finally I found the trick.
I ask about this to a very friendly person on irc, and he told me to check the set TERM= in ubuntu and them put it in other systems and it worked!!

it also works in CLI in a linux floppy named TOMSRTBT and is that what I should use...

But I need some tips... how to copy the contents of the floppy to boot from HD?!
then how to boot and login automatically and perform telnet 192.168.x.x ?!
the target pc's are 486 with 8mb ram and 250mb hd.

thanks
 
Old 06-23-2006, 06:58 AM   #11
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Quote:
contents of the floppy to boot from HD
How about using dd? (see learning dd command thread in LQ)
I know about tom's but do not know what the bootloader is.

It depends if you want to keep some spare space on the HD

I suppose if you make partitions you could dd to the boot partition,
maybe have to edit 1 line in the bootloader, do not know

So just a vague suggestion am afraid

(you may want to look into sourceforge smartboot package as well)

Let us know how this goes
 
Old 06-23-2006, 10:00 AM   #12
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hi

http://not.toms.net/twiki/bin/view/T...tbtOnHardDrive

it seems to be hard... so I may try other distro... do u know some that i could install over the net cause there are no cdroms in this machines...
 
Old 06-26-2006, 05:51 PM   #13
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so I don't think my request is too hard for many of you that know a lot about linux
so I will just want that a machine (old) upon boot, execute telnet ip.
how can I do it in the most easy way?!



I have tried several options on vmware... pxes 2x boot a tiny OS that can launch several remote clients. I can do there the telnet perfecly.
Tomsbootroot also does it fine but it is not easy to put it in the HD to boot automatically with the telnet, I think...

thanks
 
  


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