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Old 11-30-2006, 03:47 PM   #1
teryglenn1
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Cent OS 3.x Random System Failure, very odd please advise


Hey guys i have a box running cent OS 3.7 linux here are the specs.

Pentium III 550mhz
512 RAM
intel 440bx mobo
Dlink ethernet 10/100

here is the problem randomly usually over a period of a few days i'll come to log into the system and notice the power LED still on however the screen is black and i cannot SSH or do anything but hold the power button to restart it. I know linux is a very stable OS so i am having a hard time believing that its a software issue. I am more inclined to say its hardware related however i have not been able to track it down. I have disabled most of the power management features i am aware of because at first i thought that was the issue. Anyways, any help would be much appreciated thank you.
 
Old 11-30-2006, 03:56 PM   #2
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Are there any weird errors in the logs? (/var/log/messages /var/log/dmesg).
 
Old 11-30-2006, 03:58 PM   #3
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Check /var/log/messages for errors just befor the failure (you'll see the syslog restart message from your last boot, then look up in the file).

This is typically a heat or power problem. Once, I've also seen a flacky PCI card cause this.

Some likely causes:

- failed or disconnected fan causing an overheat
- excessive dust accumulation
- failing power supply
- power spikes - a high current device on the same electrical circuit, like a laser printer, vacuum, failing UPS or surge suppressor, etc.
- induced power spikes - lightning, power lines "slapping" in the wind or in trees, etc.
 
Old 12-01-2006, 08:08 AM   #4
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My system log didnt show any odd errors however it does restart every hour it looks like.

Nov 30 17:00:06 alice syslogd 1.4.1: restart.
Nov 30 18:00:04 alice syslogd 1.4.1: restart.
Nov 30 19:00:04 alice syslogd 1.4.1: restart.
Nov 30 20:00:05 alice syslogd 1.4.1: restart.
Dec 1 09:01:09 alice syslogd 1.4.1: restart.
Dec 1 09:01:09 alice syslog: syslogd startup succeeded


it stopped working nov 30 until i had to hard reboot it today dec 1
 
Old 12-01-2006, 08:22 AM   #5
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That's too precise for a failure. You likely have a cron job that is shutting down your system. If this is a work system, do you have any (ex)disgruntled employees? If it is a home system, someone else has likely gotten access to your system (do you have ftp, rsh, telnet or other insecure access enabled?).

It could also be a hardware problem that is triggering the issue, initiated by a cron job. For example, a flaky USB/Firewire PCI card that is used for an hourly file copy to an external drive, or something similar. When the cron job starts, the system fails.
 
Old 12-01-2006, 08:28 AM   #6
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Could it be an APM/ACPI problem? Try booting the OS with the kernel options "acpi=off apm=off"
 
Old 12-01-2006, 10:03 AM   #7
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alright i added the kernel options acpi=off apm=off. i am gonna see if that works. I am also gonna do a fresh install of CentOS 4.4 on a new machine to see if the issue goes away
 
  


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